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IrishBubbaLiberal

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3. More details.....
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:36 AM
Mar 2025

Last edited Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:52 PM - Edit history (1)


With construction begun, Aguayo placed Captain Ramón in charge of the fort and its ninety soldiers and turned his attention to the founding of Nuestra Señora del Espíritu Santo de Zúñiga Mission, which Peña says was “close to the presidio.” The site of this effort to Christianize the Karankawan tribes, however, has not been definitely identified.

Scarcely two years into Ramón’s administration of the presidio, he proved so inept in dealing with the mission subjects that it cost him his life. When the entire Indian population became aroused over what should have been a minor incident in the house of a soldier, the captain ordered all the Indians, including women and children, imprisoned in a small hut. Official reports of the episode claim he planned to remove them a few at a time to be hanged. Some of the Indians tried to escape, and, in the melee that followed, Ramón was stabbed in the breast. He died of the wound eight days later.

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My NOTES……

I have read other historical accounts of his death, where it was attributed to
a arrow at his neck, and he yes died a few days later

That Texas historical website does indeed get it wrong sometimes on the details,
Or at least ONLY states one version, and leaves out other historical documentation

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Excellent review of a pernicious myth long overlooked al bupp Mar 2025 #1
My spouse's family of New Spain, was in what became Tejas, in 1718 IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #2
More details..... IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #3
Muy interesante al bupp Mar 2025 #5
Old story but still fun to read. Grins Mar 2025 #4
Forget the Alamo! Remember the Republic of the Rio Grande! Xipe Totec Mar 2025 #6
One of my favorite movies Mblaze Mar 2025 #7
My favorite closing line of any movie, ever. Paladin Mar 2025 #11
Here a write up on that movie IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #20
Sayles's movies always have real human beings. Mblaze Mar 2025 #21
Well said. I have a friend who is into the "Moorish American" thing bhikkhu Mar 2025 #8
Folks, this is an easy one. We were stealing their land. ashredux Mar 2025 #9
One other item you forget gay texan Mar 2025 #18
Thank you for the reminder of this very important book. I read it niyad Mar 2025 #10
Excellent book! Abbott hates it... lol Shipwack Mar 2025 #12
Best book ever written about The Alamo is a novel. Paladin Mar 2025 #13
In Ulysses S. Grant's Autobiography Zorro Mar 2025 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Shipwack Mar 2025 #15
Thanks for posting this. It wasn't until a few years ago that I learned that the "Mexican War" raccoon Mar 2025 #16
I was born in Travis County (Austin) momta Mar 2025 #17
I'm not shocked by this. Texasgal Mar 2025 #19
I saw the 1960 John Wayne "Alamo" movie. Paladin Mar 2025 #22
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