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IrishBubbaLiberal

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2. My spouse's family of New Spain, was in what became Tejas, in 1718
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:24 AM
Mar 2025

Long before the asshole Gringos of the fictional Alamo arrived illegally in
New Spain…..

In fact one of her relative died in La Bahia, at that original French ‘fort’ that Texas A & M was looking for a finally think they found a few years ago.

An Indian arrow into his neck, he died I believe in 1723 on Christmas Eve
at Bahia according to written accounts

More than you wanted to know,,,,,
https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/la-bahia

https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/ramon-domingo

https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/nuestra-senora-de-loreto-de-la-bahia-presidio

NUESTRA SEÑORA DE LORETO DE LA BAHIA PRESIDIO.Nuestra Señora de Loreto Presidio, popularly called La Bahía, dates from April 4, 1721, when Capt. Domingo Ramón occupied the site of La Salle's Texas Settlement on the right bank of Garcitas Creek five miles above its mouth in Lavaca Bay. Ramón, as part of the Aguayo expedition, was to hold this crucial site while the main thrust of the expedition, led by the Marqués de San Miguel de Aguayo, proceeded into East Texas. Aguayo’s purpose was to drive out any French and reestablish the missions abandoned in 1719 ahead of the French invasion—actually a feeble French thrust known as the Chicken War, the Texas manifestation of the War of the Quadruple Alliance.

A year after Ramón’s occupation, April 6, 1722, the Marqués de Aguayo laid out the plan for construction of fortifications at the La Salle settlement site, in southern Victoria County. The new presidio was to guard the coast against possible French intrusion: a prescient move in view of the fact that French maritime expeditions had probed the coast in 1720 and 1721, seeking “La Salle’s bay” with expectations of building fortifications.

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Excellent review of a pernicious myth long overlooked al bupp Mar 2025 #1
My spouse's family of New Spain, was in what became Tejas, in 1718 IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #2
More details..... IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #3
Muy interesante al bupp Mar 2025 #5
Old story but still fun to read. Grins Mar 2025 #4
Forget the Alamo! Remember the Republic of the Rio Grande! Xipe Totec Mar 2025 #6
One of my favorite movies Mblaze Mar 2025 #7
My favorite closing line of any movie, ever. Paladin Mar 2025 #11
Here a write up on that movie IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #20
Sayles's movies always have real human beings. Mblaze Mar 2025 #21
Well said. I have a friend who is into the "Moorish American" thing bhikkhu Mar 2025 #8
Folks, this is an easy one. We were stealing their land. ashredux Mar 2025 #9
One other item you forget gay texan Mar 2025 #18
Thank you for the reminder of this very important book. I read it niyad Mar 2025 #10
Excellent book! Abbott hates it... lol Shipwack Mar 2025 #12
Best book ever written about The Alamo is a novel. Paladin Mar 2025 #13
In Ulysses S. Grant's Autobiography Zorro Mar 2025 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Shipwack Mar 2025 #15
Thanks for posting this. It wasn't until a few years ago that I learned that the "Mexican War" raccoon Mar 2025 #16
I was born in Travis County (Austin) momta Mar 2025 #17
I'm not shocked by this. Texasgal Mar 2025 #19
I saw the 1960 John Wayne "Alamo" movie. Paladin Mar 2025 #22
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