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6. Some very good people are worried too.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 12:46 PM
Apr 2

REPORT
THE CITY BAR CALLS UPON CONGRESS TO CLARIFY THE INSURRECTION AND POSSE COMITATUS ACTS

The New York City Bar Association[1] (the “City Bar”) is gravely concerned about two laws that carry the potential for unprecedented misuse of the United States military: the Insurrection Act of 1807[2] and the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.[3] Absent a clear need either to assist state and local authorities in quelling major, violent, civil unrest, or to assure the protection of constitutional rights, using the military in immigration enforcement would be inappropriate, contrary to its customary use, and place servicemembers in roles in which they lack the necessary training and experience. To prevent the Executive Branch from abusing the power granted by these vague and outdated statutes, we call upon Congress to reform these laws at its earliest possible opportunity, and we urge the incoming Trump administration to refrain from such unprecedented misapplication of these statutes.

As early as June 2020, when state governors faced turbulent demonstrations related to the Black Lives Matter movement and other issues, then-President Donald Trump threatened to deploy the military to “solve the problem,” suggesting that U.S. troops would be used to confront, control, and possibly detain U.S. citizens. And in the aftermath of the November 2020 election, in response to concerns over potential post-election civil unrest should President Trump refuse to step down, Jeffrey Clark (at the time, the acting head of the Justice Department’s Civil Division and President Trump’s expected pick for Attorney General) stated “That’s why there’s an Insurrection Act.”[4] More recently, President-elect Trump has indicated that he would invoke the Insurrection Act to use National Guardsmen and federal troops to remove non-citizens who lack legal status from the United States. And in October, 2024, President Trump threatened to use the U.S. military to counter unspecified dangers posed by supposed domestic opponents, labeling them the “enemy from within.”[5]

As the Commander in Chief, the President wields a tremendous amount of power. But like all power in a democracy, it is not unlimited. The New York City Bar Association urges the Executive Branch, including the President and senior military leaders, to respect those limits, thereby preventing the abuse of power and the military’s misuse, pending clarifications by Congress.
https://www.nycbar.org/reports/a-call-for-congress-to-clarify-the-insurrection-and-posse-comitatus-acts/

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I hope you are as dead wrong as the 2000 predictors were 25 years ago. Srkdqltr Apr 2 #1
These aren't my predictions. But I agree with the sentiment. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Apr 2 #4
Well whoever than, good information Srkdqltr Apr 2 #7
The 2000 predictors were not dead wrong. Susan Calvin Apr 2 #15
year 2000 was a real issue Skittles Apr 2 #39
It's not a coincidence The Wizard Apr 2 #2
It is also, conveniently, DENVERPOPS Apr 2 #18
And if that happens then Musk's "bullet points" will likely need to be used. Callie1979 Apr 2 #3
I'm not familiar with his bullet points LymphocyteLover Apr 2 #12
Remember the justification of your Fed job? Callie1979 Apr 2 #36
Expect the internet to be shut down or severely curtailed. erronis Apr 2 #5
I thought about some of these things, too. ... littlemissmartypants Apr 2 #9
I'm not sure I'll survive (well) without my internet communities... erronis Apr 2 #11
❤️ littlemissmartypants Apr 2 #14
Just because you are paranoid DENVERPOPS Apr 2 #19
I use that one often, lately. n/t yellow dahlia Apr 2 #32
More and More DENVERPOPS Apr 3 #41
Yikes. And let's hope you're wrong. yellow dahlia Apr 2 #31
Some very good people are worried too. Passages Apr 2 #6
Do you recall when DENVERPOPS Apr 2 #21
President Psychopath... littlemissmartypants Apr 2 #24
Trump and his RepubliCONs DENVERPOPS Apr 2 #25
Haven't troops already... littlemissmartypants Apr 2 #23
Yes. This group is working to have more clarity from lawmakers so they can stop him in court. Passages Apr 2 #34
On Hitler's Birthday, no less. Midnight Writer Apr 2 #8
Exactly. littlemissmartypants Apr 2 #10
even if he does, I don't see how they can effectively institute martial law in this huge and diverse country LymphocyteLover Apr 2 #13
Well, he's done a lot of things people said he couldn't do already. Susan Calvin Apr 2 #16
Citizens around the county are getting more angry each day with what they are seeing. This is literally his trump card. jalan48 Apr 2 #17
let's hope for a full et tu Apr 2 #20
Well, a lot of us ARE armed. And some are well trained. Callie1979 Apr 2 #37
Could he be impeached and removed on April 22nd? Escape Apr 2 #22
Here's some additional information on that... littlemissmartypants Apr 2 #33
Thank you, Pants... Escape Apr 2 #35
Urging trump not to do something means he'll do exactly that Bayard Apr 2 #26
Seriously, how does this unsourced "probabilistic forecast" help us? Even the footnotes have no sources. ancianita Apr 2 #27
I understand... littlemissmartypants Apr 2 #29
I think I read it through right down to the footnotes, because I was looking for source links. ancianita Apr 2 #38
Thanks for sharing, pants. yellow dahlia Apr 2 #28
My pleasure. littlemissmartypants Apr 2 #30
Dictators will do ANYTHING to sieze power and hold onto it Martin Eden Apr 3 #40
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