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In reply to the discussion: Israel bars German author over poem critical of its nuclear arsenal [View all]BlueMTexpat
(15,612 posts)29. LOL. Showing my ignorance, I thought
you meant ONE book!
Fortunately, the Google cleared things up for me.
The Flounder http://www.amazon.com/Flounder-Helen-Kurt-Wolff-Book/dp/0156319357
The Rat http://www.amazon.com/The-Rat-Gunter-Grass/dp/015675830X/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
There are plenty of Israelis who believe that their government has overreacted. See, e.g., http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/israel-has-reacted-with-hysteria-over-gunter-grass-1.423312
From the article:
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The emotions can be understood, but it's hard to accept the overreaction. When the interior minister says, "If Gunter Grass wants to continue to distribute his false and distorted works, I suggest he do so from Iran, where he'll find an appreciative audience," he doesn't even detect the irony in his words. Because it's precisely his decision not to let Grass enter Israel because of a poem he wrote that is characteristic of dark regimes like those in Iran or North Korea.
The combination of declarations against Israel and a past as a Nazi soldier is an explosive combination that invites sharp reactions. But while Benjamin Netanyahu's remark describing Grass' work as "ignorant and shameful declarations that any fair person in the world must condemn" can be accepted as part of the public debate, Yishai's use of his governmental authority is not legitimate. Any protest should be expressed within the democratic-liberal framework, which allows every person to express his views - provocative though they may be.
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yes Günter Glass did serve in an SS Panzer unit in 1944 when he was 17 didn't he?
azurnoir
Apr 2012
#8
So are all IDF members lifelong Irgun terrorists by your asinine and simple logic?
Robeysays
Apr 2012
#12
If someone was in Irgun and seems to advocate for Irgun positions decades later.
Kurska
Apr 2012
#25
Doesnt matter. In the end its their country and they can say who can enter it and who cant just like
cstanleytech
Apr 2012
#52
You just accused me of promoting something unspeakable, because I disagreed with you about a poem.
Ken Burch
Apr 2012
#77
Is this why so many good authors were repeatedly blocked from publication in the US?
Trillo
Apr 2012
#4
Then we should Bar all Israelis who severed in the IDF for there life long Irgun Affiliation.
Robeysays
Apr 2012
#13
It's frustrating to me that there seems to be no distinction in the minds of some
XemaSab
Apr 2012
#21
This guy was Waffen SS. Ideological apples rarely fall far from their ideological roots.
Kurska
Apr 2012
#27
Hitler youth, volunteered for service, holds anti-semitic beliefs decades later.
Kurska
Apr 2012
#54
No I'm saying it is harder to prove as objective fact than membership in an organization.
Kurska
Apr 2012
#67
Israel’s policy endangers world peace’ — Jakob Augstein and Gideon Levy have Gunter Grass’s back
JohnyCanuck
Apr 2012
#32
If you're threatened by a poem, you are clearly and unequivocally WRONG. End of story.
saras
Apr 2012
#33