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Comrade Grumpy

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12. Pot accounts for about half of all drug arrests.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jan 2013

But not for much of the drug prisoner population. I think there are something like 40,000 pot prisoners out of about 500,000 drug war prisoners.

A disproportionate number of those drug war prisoners are poor people of color. Funny how that works.

Retaining the prohibition on hard drugs retains all the harms associated with prohibition: Law enforcement corruption, retail and wholesale illegal drug business (gangs and cartels) violence, black market prices leading to acquisitive crime, all the downsides of using law enforcement to solve social problems. And there will still be hard drugs easily available. That's how it's been so far.

I favor ending drug prohibition, period, and dealing with drugs as a public health issue, not a criminal one. We can talk about how that might work, if you like, but a kind of cold way of thinking about it is to say we should treat drugs like alcohol and leave the cops out of it except to clean up the mess.

With alcohol, law enforcement involvement is limited to people who threaten the public safety (drunk drivers), the public order (public intoxication--in some places, disturbing the public), or who are committing crimes under the influence (bar fights, domestic aassaults, child abuse or neglect, other stupid, drunken shit). We don't arrest alcohol users and we don't go after "alcohol trafficking organizations."

We suffer some social harms from alcohol, but we've removed the harms caused by prohibition. I think you could reasonably argue that not prohibiting alcohol is a net harm reduction. We could do that with other drugs, too, especially if coupled with access to treatment on demand under a sane health care system.

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War on Drugs - another sick Nixon legacy... Cooley Hurd Jan 2013 #1
Kick,Rec,Sigh..................... think Jan 2013 #2
Shocking. Truly shocking. theaocp Jan 2013 #3
But I feel SO much safer knowing that my government is trying to make sure abq e streeter Jan 2013 #4
The "19%'ers" are pharmaceutical and private prison investors. Scuba Jan 2013 #5
It seems like too often the 'war' on drugs is conflated with marijuana policy. randome Jan 2013 #6
The DEA would be crippled theaocp Jan 2013 #8
Then they could do a better job with interdicting the truly dangerous drugs. randome Jan 2013 #9
Pot accounts for about half of all drug arrests. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #12
Cocaine and heroin, etc. are not in the same league as alcohol. randome Jan 2013 #13
Support for legalizing anything other than weed rarely exceeds 10%. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #15
I think you are mistaken .. Lenomsky Jan 2013 #20
The War on Drugs has helped the Government to incarcerate blacks and latinos and... AZ Progressive Jan 2013 #7
Here's a great place to "cut government spending" SHRED Jan 2013 #10
Is this even a question? Socal31 Jan 2013 #11
This is especially frustrating... bvar22 Jan 2013 #14
I'll be pushing (letters, phone calls, letters to editor, etc.) duhneece Jan 2013 #24
It only benefitted the megalomaniacs and the prison-industrial complex rachel1 Jan 2013 #16
Yah, so why Obama cracking down on dispensaries? grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #17
Because the # of dispensaries grew dramatically. randome Jan 2013 #18
But drug war no good. why waste money? AMerica no want. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #19
You don't have to be terminally ill to qualify for a medical marijuana card in California. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #21
Especially when the big-bank money launderers like HSBC... KansDem Jan 2013 #22
it has not been worth it. the war itself is a crime. samsingh Jan 2013 #23
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