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pat_k

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71. Simon presents compelling numbers, but I don't necessarily agree with the distance part.
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 05:48 PM
6 hrs ago

Now that Platner is no longer the nominee, Simon is expressing his negative assessment of him more clearly. Before he was nominated, Simon expressed reservations about an unvetted candidate. After he was nominated, he was fundraising and calling on folks to help make the campaign successful. He now seems to have concluded that Platner was gaslighting people on multiple fronts -- including the strength of his support and ability to beat Collins.

As he points out, almost any way you look at it statistically, Platner was under-performing relative to where he should have been. And this indicates less of a "movement" than the accepted narrative would indicate.

My views are less clear. But I did take time to revisit the following Washington Post Op Ed from June 8. I just sort of wrote it off when it came out just before the primary. I'm still processing all the various views on Platner, but I may be starting to lean toward the "gaslighting" view. And from that perspective, caution about accepting the narrative that he was the leader of powerful movement without question is prudent.

Here's that op ed:

https://wapo.st/4h0gHJF

I know firsthand why Graham Platner shouldn’t be a U.S. senator
I quit the campaign last fall, disturbed by what I'd learned about the Maine Democratic Senate primary candidate
June 8, 2026

Genevieve McDonald, a former Maine state representative, is the former political director of Graham Platner’s Democratic Senate primary campaign in Maine.
...


Not sure if this addresses your question. My thinking on Platner is in flux, so I'm not being very clear

On edit: Back to the "distance" thing. I'd be happy if Troy Jackson, who campaigned with Platner, were the new nominee, so I guess I disagree with the distance thing. But I think I would be happier with Bellows. She's a fighter and having a woman after this fatally flawed man seems fitting.

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Don't let the door hit you! BigmanPigman Yesterday #1
I hope we Mainers can clear up the mess quickly, secure a worthwhile candidate and dispose of Susan Collins Bumbles Yesterday #3
They shall. pat_k Yesterday #19
Suspending? Innocent Smith Yesterday #2
Every politician does this. progressoid Yesterday #10
Campaign funds iemanja 2 hrs ago #75
Please make sure candidates are vetted MissKat Yesterday #4
It's not about Fetterman or Bernie. It's about what Mainers are telling us they want. MadameButterfly Yesterday #20
Let's see. 2024. Primary over. Primary candidate chosen. Ask or told (whichever way you view it) to step aside AZLD4Candidate Yesterday #5
The point is Platner denies it Akakoji Yesterday #8
Yesterday someone said they won't believe until he admits he raped her sarisataka Yesterday #16
Other than the accusation, is there evidence of it? AZLD4Candidate Yesterday #33
He has a history sarisataka Yesterday #34
Well, we can kiss this senate seat goodbye. 2024 showed me what happens when we change candidates AZLD4Candidate Yesterday #37
If we must tolerate candidates sarisataka Yesterday #40
I'll elect people. You elect saints AZLD4Candidate 16 hrs ago #45
I'll elect people sarisataka 12 hrs ago #53
Homophobe too? Based on what evidence exactly? AloeVera 12 hrs ago #54
It is something he has admitted to in the past sarisataka 11 hrs ago #55
He has not "admitted" to making remarks as you describe them. AloeVera 8 min ago #78
You can keep on making excuses sarisataka 3 min ago #79
OFFS, executioner, really MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #61
It showed one thing that can happen MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #70
Jenny Racicot is a credible withness PCB66 16 hrs ago #44
Let's give him credit for doing the right thing MadameButterfly Yesterday #21
He didn't "do the right thing" PCB66 10 hrs ago #58
OK, do you wish he'd stayed in the race? MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #64
In this day and age, accusation means conviction. You run one first to see how it floats. AZLD4Candidate Yesterday #32
You seem to be forgetting his very own rape apologist posts. That niyad 11 hrs ago #57
I'm not rationalizing anything. This seat is lost to us now. 2024 is my evidence. AZLD4Candidate 10 hrs ago #59
Interesting first sentence, since I never said that you had niyad 7 hrs ago #69
Wait till Gavin Newsom announces a Pres run if he so chooses Bengus81 17 hrs ago #41
The timeline was dictated by the candidate's actions, not the GOP. QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #46
Platner's "vetters" MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #62
He's awful. His vocal fry comes and goes... it's a defensive reflex. QueerDuck 9 hrs ago #63
Fuck him. He had a tattoo of a totenkopf on his chest one of the very last images that people saw before Botany Yesterday #6
And he worked for Blackwater. Crowman2009 Yesterday #11
The skull and crossbones or Totenkopf precedes the Nazis Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Yesterday #12
Doesn't matter. evolves Yesterday #14
Please stand by as we return to our regularly scheduled program. 🤓😄 littlemissmartypants Yesterday #35
Most everything the Nazi's used as symbolism came from somewhere else. Bengus81 17 hrs ago #42
MAGA goes back to the Metropolitan Amateur Golf Association Torchlight 13 hrs ago #50
This. yardwork Yesterday #23
Several great choices pfitz59 Yesterday #7
Two great females who have already lost big to Collins, and one who lost big to Platner MadameButterfly Yesterday #22
Hatchet job, timing was sus duckworth969 Yesterday #9
My main question about Plantner is . . . AverageOldGuy Yesterday #13
He was Anti Israel and anti old politicians. The driving forces in Democrat politics these days. SMH. Pompoy Yesterday #17
Was the Maine Democratic Party for Platner? I thought they were for Mills MadameButterfly Yesterday #24
Well all said lets be glad it happened in time to replace him on the ballot. Exultant Democracy Yesterday #15
In 5-7 years... AdamGG Yesterday #28
Yes, July 13 was the deadline for a nominee to drop out. LisaL Yesterday #39
Maine will get a new nominee in an open process. And that candidate will be stronger than Platner. pat_k Yesterday #18
I liked the optimistic title to your post MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #65
Simon presents compelling numbers, but I don't necessarily agree with the distance part. pat_k 6 hrs ago #71
Didn't Bellows get buried by Collins when she ran against her before? MadameButterfly 4 hrs ago #72
You're right. She did. A decade ago (2014) pat_k 4 hrs ago #73
He's toxic. xuplate Yesterday #25
Governor Mills may have some miles on her... GiqueCee Yesterday #26
Not according to the polls MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #66
The executive director of the Mane Democratic Party is on with Lawrence asking for donations. SamuelAdams Yesterday #27
I just watched her. sheshe2 Yesterday #30
It depends on whether they listen to Maine voters MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #67
Structural pressure ? What the hell.... reACTIONary Yesterday #29
I spotted that too and was on my way here to comment... so I'll just add my thoughts to yours. QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #47
Thanks for your thoughts! reACTIONary 11 hrs ago #56
What exactly does "We believe for the movement to continue" mean ToxMarz Yesterday #31
I think Mainer's thought they were in a movement MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #68
No more posers, please. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #36
There's no Independent candidate on the ballot Warpy Yesterday #38
Yep...and bowing to her Fuhrer still claiming "I think he learned his lesson" Bengus81 16 hrs ago #43
So, what about Janet "See you in Court" Mills? 70sEraVet 14 hrs ago #48
I never understood the problem either BumRushDaShow 13 hrs ago #49
He had me fooled. I thought he was just gruff and blunt. bucolic_frolic 13 hrs ago #51
This obsession on a Democratic forum is almost funny - let it go, it's no longer relevant. ☮ walkingman 13 hrs ago #52
More rape apologists and defeatists?? MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #60
Let's regroup but also remember that Trump has been convicted of like crimes that he is only accused of. twodogsbarking 4 hrs ago #74
Unlike Republican voters, some Democratic voters iemanja 2 hrs ago #76
Wrong is wrong even if you wear vestments. twodogsbarking 2 hrs ago #77
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