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In reply to the discussion: Graham Platner ends U.S. Senate campaign in Maine [View all]pat_k
(14,733 posts)18. Maine will get a new nominee in an open process. And that candidate will be stronger than Platner.
More on the likely nomination process and people in the running here.
And there is every reason to expect that the nominee that comes out of the process will be a much stronger candidate against Collins.
https://www.hopiumchronicles.com/p/some-thoughts-on-whats-next-for-maine
As I wrote yesterday I still believe a solid, strong generic Democrat can beat Susan Collins this November. Harris won Maine by 7 points. Our candidate for Governor Hannah Pingree leads by 15. The generic ballot is 53%-42% Dem right now. This is the most favorable environment of any battleground state right now. But it is going to be essential, vital for whomever we pick to be able to put distance between them and Platner. For not only is he a despicable figure now, his political project was never as successful as his reckless gaslighters led us to believe; and this matters for the broader conversation about the future of our party...
We are going to spend some time with data now.
Over the last several months prior to the June primary Platner led Collins by an average of 7 points over Susan Collins. This is exactly the margin Harris won Maine by in 2024, 4 points below the +11 generic ballot the NYT published last week, and at least 8 points below our gubernatorial candidate, Hannah Pingree. I will once again share that recent chart of how our battleground Senate candidates are doing relative to Harris. This uses the NYT results for Platner from last week:

The Fox News poll last week had Platner trailing Susan Collins by 3. What this all means is that Platner has had the worst polling of any of our battleground candidates in the country this summer in what is by far and away the most Democratic state we are competing in this year.
...
The +15 is where Hannah Pingree, a well-established Democrat in Maine, is right now. Last week Platner was +2 in the NYT poll, and -3 in the Fox News poll.
G. Elliott Morris published an analysis last night that makes some of these same points...
Lets now look at a bit more data from this new analysis from Morris. The number on the right column is the number of percentage points our candidates are over/underperforming against expectations right now in their nowcast model:
Talarico 5.4
Cooper 4.5
Brown 4.2
Turek 3.7
Michigan -5.9 (both El-Sayed and Haley Stevens)
Platner - 9.9
While Ossoff and Peltola are not included in Morris analysis they would fall into the overperformance camp, not the underperformance camp based on publicly available polling data of late.
....
We are going to spend some time with data now.
Over the last several months prior to the June primary Platner led Collins by an average of 7 points over Susan Collins. This is exactly the margin Harris won Maine by in 2024, 4 points below the +11 generic ballot the NYT published last week, and at least 8 points below our gubernatorial candidate, Hannah Pingree. I will once again share that recent chart of how our battleground Senate candidates are doing relative to Harris. This uses the NYT results for Platner from last week:

The Fox News poll last week had Platner trailing Susan Collins by 3. What this all means is that Platner has had the worst polling of any of our battleground candidates in the country this summer in what is by far and away the most Democratic state we are competing in this year.
...
The +15 is where Hannah Pingree, a well-established Democrat in Maine, is right now. Last week Platner was +2 in the NYT poll, and -3 in the Fox News poll.
G. Elliott Morris published an analysis last night that makes some of these same points...
Lets now look at a bit more data from this new analysis from Morris. The number on the right column is the number of percentage points our candidates are over/underperforming against expectations right now in their nowcast model:
Talarico 5.4
Cooper 4.5
Brown 4.2
Turek 3.7
Michigan -5.9 (both El-Sayed and Haley Stevens)
Platner - 9.9
While Ossoff and Peltola are not included in Morris analysis they would fall into the overperformance camp, not the underperformance camp based on publicly available polling data of late.
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I hope we Mainers can clear up the mess quickly, secure a worthwhile candidate and dispose of Susan Collins
Bumbles
Wednesday
#3
It's not about Fetterman or Bernie. It's about what Mainers are telling us they want.
MadameButterfly
Wednesday
#20
Let's see. 2024. Primary over. Primary candidate chosen. Ask or told (whichever way you view it) to step aside
AZLD4Candidate
Wednesday
#5
Well, we can kiss this senate seat goodbye. 2024 showed me what happens when we change candidates
AZLD4Candidate
Wednesday
#37
Yes, he miscalculated people's tolerance for the redemption arc and belief that people could "evolve".
AloeVera
1 hr ago
#80
In this day and age, accusation means conviction. You run one first to see how it floats.
AZLD4Candidate
Wednesday
#32
I'm not rationalizing anything. This seat is lost to us now. 2024 is my evidence.
AZLD4Candidate
12 hrs ago
#59
Fuck him. He had a tattoo of a totenkopf on his chest one of the very last images that people saw before
Botany
Wednesday
#6
Please stand by as we return to our regularly scheduled program. 🤓😄
littlemissmartypants
Wednesday
#35
Two great females who have already lost big to Collins, and one who lost big to Platner
MadameButterfly
Wednesday
#22
He was Anti Israel and anti old politicians. The driving forces in Democrat politics these days. SMH.
Pompoy
Wednesday
#17
Was the Maine Democratic Party for Platner? I thought they were for Mills
MadameButterfly
Wednesday
#24
Well all said lets be glad it happened in time to replace him on the ballot.
Exultant Democracy
Wednesday
#15
Maine will get a new nominee in an open process. And that candidate will be stronger than Platner.
pat_k
Wednesday
#18
Simon presents compelling numbers, but I don't necessarily agree with the distance part.
pat_k
8 hrs ago
#71
The executive director of the Mane Democratic Party is on with Lawrence asking for donations.
SamuelAdams
Wednesday
#27
I spotted that too and was on my way here to comment... so I'll just add my thoughts to yours.
QueerDuck
17 hrs ago
#47
Yep...and bowing to her Fuhrer still claiming "I think he learned his lesson"
Bengus81
18 hrs ago
#43
This obsession on a Democratic forum is almost funny - let it go, it's no longer relevant. ☮
walkingman
15 hrs ago
#52
Let's regroup but also remember that Trump has been convicted of like crimes that he is only accused of.
twodogsbarking
5 hrs ago
#74