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WSHazel

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31. I wouldn't be surprised if there are back channel talks

Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:28 AM

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Between the EU and Russia. The EU should offer Russia a deal to end war. Conditional membership to the EU based on various free market and political reforms over the next 10 years. Ukraine gets immediate membership to EU.

The big carrot for Russia would be ending NATO. The EU + Canada would reconstitute as a new military alliance. Add Ukraine, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and South Korea.

Russia is in no condition to fight anyone, ever again. The economy is in shambles, the demographics are disastrous, and the military is spent. The Europeans would annihilate the Russian military if it came to that, and the Europeans have nukes. Putin’s own position in Russia is in jeopardy with how badly the war is going, but a conditional membership to the EU would probably protect him. He might take it.

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End the war first WSHazel Yesterday #42

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