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10. WTF? It is not a Free Speech question. It is a medical, sociological, and ethical question.

Tue Mar 31, 2026, 12:22 PM

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It could only be considered free speech if there was no coercion involved, and only speech in which the subject can speak freely and leave at any time.

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Supreme Court rules against Colorado ban on 'conversion therapy' for LGBTQ+ kids [View all] BumRushDaShow 21 hrs ago OP

Obergefell is in danger Prairie Gates 21 hrs ago #1

I doubt Obergefell makes it through next year's docket JT45242 19 hrs ago #11

I don't know that there's a live case coming through the courts that would challenge Obergefell Prairie Gates 19 hrs ago #15

Not any time soon FBaggins 16 hrs ago #29

There were actually two reasons for my timeframe in my post Prairie Gates 16 hrs ago #30

Conversion therapy is torture LetMyPeopleVote 21 hrs ago #2

I could accept this, though not like it, if this principle were being applied anything like equally dsc 21 hrs ago #3

Yikes! Kagan and Sotomayor concurring with the conservatives Jose Garcia 21 hrs ago #4

This is an excerpt from the Kagan & Sotomayor concurring opinion. Justice Kagan authored it & Justice Sotomayor joined. 24601 20 hrs ago #6

Disappointing. Conversion therapy is harmful quackery. SunSeeker 19 hrs ago #9

They actually cover that in the opinion Shrek 19 hrs ago #12

Yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater is "only speech" as well, but it is regulated. SunSeeker 19 hrs ago #16

Sure, but yelling in a crowded theatre isn't speech based on viewpoint Shrek 17 hrs ago #23

Asserting there is a fire is definitely a viewpoint. SunSeeker 4 hrs ago #34

Or they just voted for what they thought was right Polybius 17 hrs ago #24

The weird christo-fascist sleep-away camps wolfie001 20 hrs ago #5

They charge a lot of money for those camps. dickthegrouch 19 hrs ago #19

No protections from mental abuse by religious fanatics. maxsolomon 20 hrs ago #7

"We condone child abuse," says Supreme Court sakabatou 20 hrs ago #8

WTF? It is not a Free Speech question. It is a medical, sociological, and ethical question. Martin68 19 hrs ago #10

Apparently that's how it works, according to the opinion Shrek 19 hrs ago #14

That is impossible angrychair 19 hrs ago #20

If that is what the decision is based on, then it does seem reasonable to me. As long as advice is freely requested and Martin68 18 hrs ago #22

Many of the people undergoing conversion therapy are minors forced by their bigoted Christian parents. Lonestarblue 17 hrs ago #26

I agree entirely. My point is if the subject request advice, that is legit. Does the court finding allow parents to Martin68 10 hrs ago #31

Abuse because of a child's gender identity or sexual orientation certainly isn't a domain exclusive to Christianity. 24601 8 hrs ago #32

The court opened the door to any and all quack Klarkashton 19 hrs ago #13

Sweet, I'll set up shop tomorrow angrychair 19 hrs ago #17

So it'll be okay for us to develop a conversion therapy program... WestMichRad 19 hrs ago #18

MAGAt conversion therapy. AWESOME! Dr. T 17 hrs ago #25

Lots of other instances where the government is restricting speech. dickthegrouch 18 hrs ago #21

Deadline Legal Blog-Supreme Court sides with Christian counselor over Colorado on 'conversion therapy' for minors LetMyPeopleVote 16 hrs ago #27

Deadline Legal Blog-Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson steps out alone, again - this time on 'conversion therapy' LetMyPeopleVote 16 hrs ago #28

Desperation. The clock is ticking. The Grand Illuminist 7 hrs ago #33