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23. I could give you wild speculation, not much else
Sun Mar 15, 2026, 03:02 PM
Mar 15

I was in the fighter world in my time in aircraft maintenance. I can tell you things I saw as an outsider, but I wasn't an operator in that space, so I don't know the operational details as an insider would. I'm only able to tell the story I told because I was part of the cargo being transported and commenting on what I saw.

One thing to note: The KC-135 normally has a crew of 3, the pilot, the copilot and the boom operator. The pilots are officers and the boom operator is an enlisted member. This aircraft had 6 onboard. They released the names and ranks of the victims and there are four officers and 2 enlisted among them.

That suggests 2 full crews onboard, which in turn suggests either a long distance flight (which seems less likely to me) or a long duration flight in the refueling area. Neither of those add up to me. I can't imagine a reason to fly a tanker from far away to refuel another tanker. In the second scenario, the one with 2 crews onboard would be the one being refueled because it was staying on station longer.. As you speculated, that would have made it the one in the lower position being refueled.

A thought occurred to me: The concentration level required for the precision formation flying during refueling is intense and probably exhausting. Since they are supporting so many combat aircraft and needing to stay on station for long periods of time, maybe they all have 2 aircrews onboard so they can swap out periodically to rest? Like I said, I never worked in the tanker world, so I don't even know if that is a thing.

Correct, no ejection seats on any cargo or tanker aircraft that I ever saw. I would guess that is because they are frequently transporting people and they wouldn't be able to eject. I would also add that the only parachutes I ever saw were army troops that were going to jump out of a perfectly good airplane.

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We'll never know the truth, this Administration is incapable of being truthful. dem4decades Mar 13 #1
killed to protect a pedophile Blues Heron Mar 13 #2
Yep. ck4829 Mar 16 #25
In the UK, Historian Mark Felton found parts of WWII still classified bucolic_frolic Mar 13 #3
When I was writing my melm00se Mar 13 #16
Maybe if genius MF47 had some bases in Afghanistan this wouldn't have happened Ponietz Mar 13 #4
Mid-air collision AverageOldGuy Mar 13 #5
I speculated on that in another thread: InstantGratification Mar 13 #6
It is almost 100% certain that the collision was with another plane involved in the refueling operation Bluetus Mar 13 #11
Correct, tankers are not normally that close InstantGratification Mar 13 #18
A question about the tanker-on-tanker scenario Bluetus Mar 14 #22
I could give you wild speculation, not much else InstantGratification Mar 15 #23
revisiting this InstantGratification Mar 16 #26
So it sounds like a "regular" collision Bluetus Mar 16 #27
yep InstantGratification Mar 16 #28
I appreciate the insights nonetheless Bluetus Mar 17 #29
It's amazing that the other plane survived. I saw the supposed image of the other plane and it looked pretty good! LeftInTX Mar 13 #8
The number is now 13. Baitball Blogger Mar 13 #7
14 wnylib Mar 13 #10
7 from the first strike in Kuwait and this 6. Baitball Blogger Mar 13 #12
Yes, you missed one, but you are not alone on that. wnylib Mar 13 #13
They did underreport it. Baitball Blogger Mar 13 #14
Everything Trump touches. Initech Mar 13 #9
my granddaughter called her mother sobbing... agingdem Mar 13 #15
There was no way they would have survived RetiredParatrooper Mar 13 #17
A lot of people don't realize in every air war more planes have been lost to accidents than combat JohnnyRingo Mar 13 #19
Sounds like exhausted -pilot error Warpy Mar 13 #20
There are no parachutes on a KC-135 so the plane... S/V Loner Mar 13 #21
... ck4829 Mar 16 #24
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