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flashman13

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12. Enough unless the Iranians launch a mass drone swarm and the ship runs out of ammunition before the
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 12:32 PM
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Iranians run out of drones. They of course could launch a swarm of small attack boats simultaneously with the air drones to attack the Navy ship and the tanker. Or they could fire off a dozen water skimming anti ship missiles that are hidden all along the coast in caves and fishing hovels. Or they could fill the Straits with assorted sea mines for which we lack the mine sweeper capability to remove (At this very moment the Navy is decommissioning multiple mine sweepers. Who would have thought we might need them?). Mine sweepers don't have defensive capabilities.

The reality is that none of those 76 destroyers are available. The very few that are in the vicinity of Iran are busy making sure the Iranians don't blow up a carrier. The rest are scattered across the world or are in port in various stages of readiness. To gather destroyers for escort duty would mean denuding other fleet assets of their protection.

Let's cut to the chase. Reality is a mother and we couldn't escort tankers if we wanted to. In the early 1980s, in the face of 1980s technology, we managed to escort one tanker a day. Right now there are 200+ tankers waiting in line. You can do the math.

Unlike us, Iran has been planning for this confrontation for decades. We don't have so much as a bar napkin sketch of a concept of a plan. Iran owns the Straits of Hormuz and we can't do anything about it.

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Gosh, it's like you can't believe anything Trump says. tanyev Thursday #1
The Navy has 76 operational Destroyers EX500rider Thursday #2
Enough unless the Iranians launch a mass drone swarm and the ship runs out of ammunition before the flashman13 Thursday #12
Wait another week or two other countries wil be stepping into escort their own tankers EX500rider Thursday #14
No they won't. The military situation is the same for everyone. Iran owns the Straits of Hormuz. flashman13 Thursday #20
" No they won't." Pakistan already announced they are EX500rider Thursday #22
There are two possibilities here. They have already cut a deal with Iran or their ships will be sunk. flashman13 Thursday #31
Or Iran will add one more country they are at war with EX500rider Thursday #32
"The reality is that none of those 76 destroyers are available." They can be. EX500rider Thursday #24
So your answer is to provide more targets. Numbers and brute force can not negate the defensive flashman13 Thursday #37
They can also create distance at the narrowst place the straight is 21 Mi wide but the channel runs down the middle EX500rider Thursday #38
DE- ruet Thursday #43
Yeah I don't need your permission or approval to post on subjects EX500rider Thursday #45
Nonsense henbuck Thursday #34
Why does the DoE have anything to do with escorting tankers? Hugin Thursday #3
Wouldn't be the 1st time EX500rider Thursday #23
This was posted earlier by someone else but it's an amazing watch, 32 minutes long wolfie001 Thursday #4
I wonder quakerboy Thursday #10
Thanks for this. We moonscape Thursday #17
You're welcome wolfie001 Thursday #21
I looked at the video moonscape Thursday #46
Well thanks for that wolfie001 Yesterday #48
No, the naval vessels rely on their own Aegis Combat System radar. EX500rider Thursday #25
Well, the lack of shipping right now is an indication of a breakdown somewhere in the defense chain wolfie001 Thursday #27
The US destroyer and mine sweeper vessels will take some time to get there from all around the globe EX500rider Thursday #28
Do these numbnuts even know what mines are and how they work? Girard442 Thursday #5
They say Trump is playing chess and he's six moves ahead of us. JohnnyRingo Thursday #6
More like 3-dimensional tiddly winks... ananda Thursday #9
LOL! Haven't heard Tiddly Winks in a long time. JohnnyRingo Thursday #13
LOL ananda Thursday #40
They say Trump is playing chess and he's six moves ahead of us. (illustrated) usonian Thursday #26
Stooges JohnnyRingo Thursday #33
When Donald is long gone, buried beneath the 18th hole somewhere, the Stooges will claim the spoils as rulers. usonian Thursday #35
You would need a 250,000 troop invasion of the Iranian side of the Strait Prairie Gates Thursday #7
This is why the W admin dropped any talk of taking on Iran Strelnikov_ Thursday #8
It's not that they're busy as much as they haven't quite figured out how much to charge per transit... EarthFirst Thursday #11
Naval escorts are not the issue AverageOldGuy Thursday #15
Exactly. And Trump is saying taxpayers will provide reinsurance to Bluetus Thursday #36
Tankers bromeando Thursday #16
A public announcement that Trump lied. Again. Martin68 Thursday #18
I suspect our Navy vessels woulld be sitting ducks in the Strait. Martin68 Thursday #19
Iran is a much larger country with more drones than Ukraine bucolic_frolic Thursday #30
Not exactly sitting ducks Red Mountain Thursday #39
I call them sitting ducks because the is very little room for mobility and they are close to land on both sides. Martin68 Thursday #44
If you destroy "the manufacturing industry that supplies their offensive capabilities" bucolic_frolic Thursday #29
But Bessent said it is!!!!! Grins Thursday #41
Encouraging vessels to just go for it is insane. But that's where we are under Orange Julius. n/t Evolve Dammit Thursday #42
Probably in two weeks. BWdem4life Yesterday #47
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