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SunSeeker

(58,117 posts)
1. A witness statement IS substantiation. Why is it so "outlandlish" to believe pedophiles would do this?
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 02:39 AM
Yesterday

I mean, why is it so unbelievable? This is exactly the sort of behavior for which Epstein and Maxwell were convicted. What the woman describes seems pretty believable to me:

“The woman who directly named Trump in her abuse allegation claimed that around 1983, when she was around 13 years old, Epstein introduced her to Trump, “who subsequently forced her head down to his exposed penis which she subsequently bit. In response, Trump punched her in the head and kicked her out.”https://martinplaut.com/2026/02/25/the-trump-files-withheld-by-the-us-justice-department-showing-abuse-of-minors/#:~:text=United%20States-,The%20Epstein%20files%20withheld%20by%20the%20US%20Justice%20Department%20showing,head%20and%20kicked%20her%20out.%E2%80%9D

Is it "unbelievable " because the alleged perp happens to be Donald Trump?


The only things the Guardian offers as contradictory facts aren't contradictory at all:

In the documents, the woman told agents she had been sexually abused by Epstein from the age of 13, beginning approximately in 1983, while she was living in Hilton Head Island, South Carolina. She said that when she was between 13 and 15, Epstein took her to a building in either New York or New Jersey, and that they traveled by either plane or car.

Mark Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein’s brother, told the Guardian he had no knowledge of his brother spending summers on Hilton Head in the early 1980s. “I would have known,” he said in a phone call. There is no evidence Trump and Epstein knew each other in 1983. (Trump told New York magazine in 2002 that he had met Epstein 15 years earlier.)


Epstein's brother's comment (that Epstein did not spend his summers in Hilton Head) does not disprove anything. The woman did not say Epstein spent his summers with her in Hilton Head, she said he took her to New York and New Jersey. That was his M.O. He always took the girls away to New York, or his ranch, or his island. And 1983-1985 IS "approximately" 15 years from 2002. Trump is not known to be particularly precise with numbers.


A witness statement IS substantiation. Why is it so "outlandlish" to believe pedophiles would do this? SunSeeker Yesterday #1
If you read Sollenberger's article, it is suggested that this victim is the same one mentioned here AZJonnie Yesterday #6
What parent let's a 13 year old fly off wnylib Yesterday #21
Agree, and at the very least, the 'multiple times' makes me really question it AZJonnie Yesterday #25
If we had all the details from that girl's statements wnylib 23 hrs ago #31
The UK Guardian has the interviews. When their tone is like it is in this article AZJonnie 5 hrs ago #33
No need to explain the Guardian's political slant to me. wnylib 4 hrs ago #34
We do need to see them, on this point we agree AZJonnie 3 hrs ago #35
More media bullshit ("substantiation") Bluetus Yesterday #22
We're talking about a guy who's daughter barely escaped his predation Xipe Totec Yesterday #2
based on the lengths Trump is going to, to distract from these files Skittles Yesterday #3
Funny, you don't hear him complaining about "Epstein Epstein Epstein" BWdem4life Yesterday #4
If you read the whole article, the claims unfortunately do sound a bit sketchy AZJonnie Yesterday #5
the article does paint her as very sketchy, with some criminal activity in recent years LymphocyteLover Yesterday #10
It's confusing because the Guardian article suggests she dropped the suit AZJonnie Yesterday #24
Good point. I think there is a lot of conflicitng info on this person, perhaps put out intentionally, perhaps because LymphocyteLover 23 hrs ago #30
Roll the snuff films Whip-poor-will Yesterday #7
Welcome to DU ! KS Toronado Yesterday #13
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #28
Even the "appearence of an impropriety" is bad enough. Hieronymus Phact Yesterday #8
there were 4 minors who accused the orange pedo. Javaman Yesterday #9
and The Guardian is saying they've seen these 3 transcripts or notes and they are not as damning as we might like LymphocyteLover Yesterday #11
I wonder if this was the young woman who settled a claim with the Epstein estate. As I recall, there Vinca Yesterday #12
Have the DOJ or the Republicans who control congress even tried to contact this person everyonematters Yesterday #14
"Unsubstantiated claims"? Has The Guardian Never Heard Of "Circumstantial ColoringFool Yesterday #15
Odd how the victim's name was published. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #16
So the White House's fall back position is going to be this is really just unsubstantiated allegations? Botany Yesterday #17
It's a crime to file a false FBI report. Six117 Yesterday #18
So she had a small criminal history so the victim deniers are out in force. travelingthrulife Yesterday #19
If there is ONE there is a bluestarone Yesterday #20
interview the survivors azureblue Yesterday #23
Don't want to beat up . . . Scubamatt Yesterday #26
I'd like to ask people who consider the claims BlueKota Yesterday #27
Notice he hasn't sued anyone who has made these claims yet. ificandream Yesterday #29
DISCOVERY Bluetus 19 hrs ago #32
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