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summer_in_TX

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34. The design of the boat and the number of horsepowers are significant.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:02 PM
9 hrs ago

Fast boats with 365 hp motors are used by Colombian drug smugglers.
Slow boats with 15 hp motors are used by fishermen.

A friend used to live and work down there. He was a sailor for 12 years, plus a master builder by trade. He took building jobs at various spots from Panama south over the years.

He filled me in from his experience. One thing of note is that drug smuggling is rare in Venezuela, because they have oil and gas wealth. But it is rampant in Columbia. Columbian drug smugglers have two routes. Some smugglers direct it northward, taking shipments to ports in the Yucatán. Those drugs end up in the U.S.

But the boats that U.S. forces are targeting are going to the "ABC Islands" (Aruba, Bonaire, and Curaçao). They are off the coast of Venezuela, but they are owned by the Dutch. Drugs going there are destined for Europe, not the U.S.

So this whole targeting drug smugglers as being "at war" with the U.S. and causing deaths here? Another lie. If they were indeed doing that, the ones they would target would be the ones heading for the Yucatán, not the ABC Islands.

Venezuela is the nearest country to the ABC Islands so blowing up the boats is certainly intended to intimidate them. The real goal is to seize their oil and gas, I feel sure, and get rid of Maduro. I'm sure Trump is steamed that he didn't succeed in getting rid of him during his first term.

Haven't Trump officials given the impression that these drug boats were Venezuelan and that Venezuelan gangs were behind them? Look at the evidence. The human rights complaint announced yesterday was by the Colombian family of one of those killed. The two survivors who were let go? Columbian.

Lying liars are going to lie, of course.

And no, sinking the boats and killing everyone on board is not proportional to the crime of smuggling drugs. Plus no evidence has been presented, even though quite possibly these are drug boats. Trump doesn't want to provide evidence. He LIKES flouting laws.

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Other victims families should join them MustLoveBeagles Tuesday #1
And also file with the U.N. popsdenver Tuesday #11
this man was a fisherman NJCher Tuesday #2
More than complain, sue. pfitz59 Tuesday #3
That is why popsdenver Tuesday #13
It's time for Whiskey Pete to Safe as Milk Tuesday #4
Since trump has put our entire military slightlv Tuesday #5
This is EXACTLY why Trump/Miller/Hegseth attacks on these boats is dangerously irresponsible! Attilatheblond Tuesday #12
Trump does not think of protecting any thing but the size of his wallet. efhmc 18 hrs ago #25
And THIS is why you send a ship out to search for debris Warpy Tuesday #6
I will consider them to be fishermen because I have bought into that whole... duhneece Tuesday #7
Do you consider Trump to innocent? Kaleva Tuesday #10
Absolutely not. We HAVE seen too much circumstantial evidence to think otherwise duhneece Tuesday #17
So you don't believe in due process and presumption of innocence Kaleva Tuesday #19
Trump got due process and was found guilty nt duhneece Tuesday #22
Things are different in international waters Warpy Tuesday #15
That question popped into my mind. How did they know this boat contained drugs? efhmc 17 hrs ago #28
The design of the boat and the number of horsepowers are significant. summer_in_TX 9 hrs ago #34
It would be easier to send a ship out to intercept them ToxMarz Tuesday #18
You're talking about speedboats that pop out from between tripical islands Warpy Tuesday #21
You talk like you're playing a fantasy video game ToxMarz Yesterday #23
Study some geography Warpy 17 hrs ago #27
Do you think these boats were capable of reaching the US? thucythucy 16 hrs ago #29
Do you think that was ever the idea? Warpy 16 hrs ago #30
I have no idea. thucythucy 16 hrs ago #31
Drugs are in waterproof packaging at point of origin Warpy 15 hrs ago #32
I would think then that a better strategy thucythucy 14 hrs ago #33
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Columbia should charge them all with murder moonshinegnomie Tuesday #16
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The Department of War Crimes is hopefully Ruby the Liberal 19 hrs ago #24
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