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And there's no reason for maga not to Scrivener7 Nov 7 #1
Just remember, this. is all on them... COL Mustard Nov 7 #39
Exactly. They own this government. They own this shutdown. Scrivener7 Nov 7 #42
The 60 is actually not a requirement but rather an agreement I believe. cstanleytech Nov 7 #46
It's Senate Rule 22 that requires 60 votes to invoke cloture. It also takes 67 votes to change Senate Rules. 24601 Nov 8 #60
Ah but is the rule a Constitutional requirement or not? If not then they can just override it anytime they want. cstanleytech Nov 8 #66
The Constitution does not require it. The Constitution does allow it because houses of Congress are empowered 24601 Sunday #68
But can they just ignore it? cstanleytech Sunday #69
Can they ignore it? There isn't a court that would intervene. When Harry Reid ignored Senate Rule 22 and went nuclear, 24601 Sunday #70
That would make ACA prime topic for Election Day 2026 bucolic_frolic Nov 7 #2
Exactly! Bev54 Nov 7 #30
Permanent. LuvLoogie Nov 7 #3
"He's offering what the GOPs floated?!" BumRushDaShow Nov 7 #4
Why wouldn't he demand permanent? And get somebody else to write the strongly worded letter. LuvLoogie Nov 7 #6
Weak sauce from Chuck. Just reinforces the notion he's not the person meant to meet the moment. Efilroft Sul Nov 7 #7
I wonder if his proposal has a lot more conditions Bluetus Nov 7 #47
My Susan Collins concern is that Chuck doesn't see what you, me, and most everyone else on this thread does. Efilroft Sul Nov 8 #59
100% agree. So why didn't the Republicals take Schumer's softball deal Bluetus Nov 8 #62
Something does seem off. Efilroft Sul Nov 8 #64
Unless the goal is something completely different Bluetus Nov 8 #65
Or, as I suspect, the Republicans are all in on it, and Thune's just good at looking stupid. Efilroft Sul Nov 8 #67
They updated the article (I always try to update) and the GOP has already rejected it. BumRushDaShow Nov 7 #19
Because he is old and has no spine, he's got his NotHardly Nov 7 #22
I'm not liking this kicking the can down the street..after 34-35 days and we'll be at it again next year Deuxcents Nov 7 #5
Post removed Post removed Nov 7 #8
At this point yes..... Lovie777 Nov 7 #9
Now do people see why Schumer should have taken a stand back in March? gab13by13 Nov 7 #10
Okay, how is this going to work? Baitball Blogger Nov 7 #11
How would a supermajority in the house (but not the senate) benefit Dems? Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #13
By shutting down the House they Baitball Blogger Nov 7 #15
A simple majority would do the same thing. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #20
Right. So if there is a kick-the-can solution ... Bluetus Nov 7 #48
thank you for pitching in. Baitball Blogger Nov 7 #49
"The absolute worst deal would be to kick it 12 months..." LudwigPastorius Nov 8 #54
The timing is tricky Bluetus Nov 8 #63
If the expiration date is after the midterms, NO DEAL Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #12
THIS... what Fiendish Thingy said! NotHardly Nov 7 #23
Schumer probably knows best. In terms of BootinUp Nov 7 #14
NO TEMPORARY EXTENSIONS!!! Miguelito Loveless Nov 7 #16
Way to keep the momentum going orangecrush Nov 7 #17
Post removed Post removed Nov 7 #18
If there's agreement, the separate ACA deal needs to pass first. Buddyzbuddy Nov 7 #21
Confusing article thesquanderer Nov 7 #24
It sounds like the offer would be to add the short-term extension to one of the separate appropriations bills BumRushDaShow Nov 7 #31
He may have offered the plan knowing full well it would be rejected. This allows Dems to say they tried to reopen the Fil1957 Nov 7 #25
Exactly right. FalloutShelter Nov 7 #26
That's what it looks like (once the article got updated with some more details) BumRushDaShow Nov 7 #32
This is what I conjured from this proposal peggysue2 Nov 8 #55
And this would pass in the House? Fat chance Raven123 Nov 7 #27
MAGA rejected the clean bill they've been asking for. They don't want to open the government. aeromanKC Nov 7 #28
I hadn't thought of that. 70sEraVet Nov 7 #34
So you're telling me there's a chance!! aeromanKC Nov 7 #35
I've attended two No Kings protests in Carksville (about 30 miles from me) 70sEraVet Nov 7 #40
"If the GOP gets another member from Tennessee sworn in after Dec. 2nd to neutralize Grijalva's vote" BumRushDaShow Nov 7 #36
I like your math better than my math!! aeromanKC Nov 7 #37
That seat in Tennessee will NOT neutralize Grijalva's vote. Wiz Imp Nov 7 #41
Correct Deminpenn Nov 7 #50
Senator Graham Cracker says 20 billion for Argentina bronxiteforever Nov 7 #29
I think it's long past time for Lindsey to be exposed. Mr. Evil Nov 7 #33
I also find Schumer's proposal unacceptable. Absolutely NO on a one year deal. flashman13 Nov 7 #38
This was clearly done because he knew the Republicans would reject it. Wiz Imp Nov 7 #43
Yes Deminpenn Nov 7 #53
We are getting sold out AGAIN angrychair Nov 7 #44
I agree with Senator Schiff on this proposal LetMyPeopleVote Nov 7 #45
Schumer/Dems forced Rs to vote against taking "yes" for an answer Deminpenn Nov 7 #51
Lindsey knows there's a good chance Dems will take the House and Senate louis-t Nov 7 #52
A 'too reasonable offer', but the GQP WANTS your health insurance costs Jack Valentino Nov 8 #56
There goes that new word again 'affordability' Rigpa108 Nov 8 #57
Senate Democrats offer to end shutdown in exchange for 1-year extension of health care tax credits - CBS News Rhiannon12866 Nov 8 #58
kicking the can down the road is not a solution. travelingthrulife Nov 8 #61
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