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AZJonnie

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3. It's along the lines but none of Epstein's victims (the known ones anyway) were only 13

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Sat Nov 1, 2025, 01:04 PM

Nov 1

Also I don't think any of them claimed they were physically confined against their will either. Carolyn Andriano, the girl that Maxwell was convicted of trafficking to Epstein, testified she went to Epstein's estate "probably 100 times over the span of years", via "appointment", and of her own accord. She also said that after the "introductory" period "something sexual happened every time", and she was paid $300 per visit, "more if I brought friends"

I'm not minimizing what they did, but this particular PA case is *significantly* more extreme (except in extent i.e. victim count). In my estimation, any sex a person perceives that that they said "yes" too in the moment, for whatever reason, is inherently less traumatic that sex you were screaming "STOP!!!! NO!!!!" to, especially if you are ALSO kidnapped, OMFG that is absolutely terrifying to ponder

But that may just be my own estimation

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Missing Louisiana girl, 13, rescued from box in Pennsylvania basement [View all] erronis Nov 1 OP

Sounds like the kind of thing Epstein and Maxwell did. sop Nov 1 #1

It's absolutely abhorent. And now you don't have to go to beauty pagents - just post on social media. erronis Nov 1 #2

Sadly, there is nothing at all new about pedophiles using social media to meet and groom potential victims. ☹️ ShazzieB Nov 1 #10

It's along the lines but none of Epstein's victims (the known ones anyway) were only 13 AZJonnie Nov 1 #3

Epstein and Maxwell used psychological manipulation rather than physical imprisonment to get what they wanted. ShazzieB Nov 1 #7

Epstein didn't use basement cages, though his victims were "as young as 11," and he "held them captive" on his island. sop Nov 1 #8

I really shouldn't put myself in a position of sounding like I'm defending those assholes, because it's not my intent AZJonnie Nov 1 #17

he had them on an island Skittles Nov 2 #18

I strongly suggest that you read Virginia Giuffre's memoir, "Nobody's Girl". niyad Nov 1 #9

The world would be a better place had Epstein and Maxwell PufPuf23 Nov 1 #12

"Missing Louisiana girl, 13" raises all sorts of red flags... ultralite001 Nov 1 #4

The numbers don't exist. Just like the girls never existed. Ephemeral crimes that rich peope get away with. erronis Nov 1 #5

💔💔💔 ultralite001 Nov 1 #6

Did Trump pardon him yet? watertiger Nov 1 #11

They are getting the office ready for him in the Bureau of Prisons - he has OTJ training already! erronis Nov 1 #15

This is another reason social media must be made public utilities Warpy Nov 1 #13

Social media must be regulated. In many ways it's become as toxic and destructive as drugs, or guns. sop Nov 1 #14

Omg! They found the girl in a box!! But am glad she was found. riversedge Nov 1 #16

Well, if the head hump of the Faux pas Nov 2 #19