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BumRushDaShow

(163,476 posts)
7. "refuse to certify the next presidential election"
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 12:22 PM
Oct 26

The "law" (if laws matter anymore) was changed to explicitly state that the VP has no role outside of "ceremonial" with respect to certifying the Electoral Count.

From here - https://protectdemocracy.org/work/understanding-the-electoral-count-reform-act-of-2022/

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Makes it absolutely clear that the Vice President’s role in the electoral vote-counting process is ministerial. [Section 109]

The 12th Amendment provides that, after they vote as part of the Electoral College, presidential electors must send certificates of their electoral votes to the president of the Senate (usually the vice president). But with respect to the vice president’s role during the counting process, the 12th Amendment says only that “[t]he President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.” The original ECA designated the President of the Senate as the presiding officer when Congress meets on January 6. The statute assigned the presiding officer specific duties, such as “preserving order,” calling for objections, and announcing the results.

Contrary to arguments made during the last election, neither the 12th Amendment nor the ECA contemplated a role for the vice president — or any other presiding officer — that involves making substantive decisions about which electoral votes to count. That said, the law could have been explicit in order to foreclose any argument that the vice president has the power to decide the election.

Accordingly, the ECRA specifies that the vice president’s role in the process of counting electoral votes is limited to “ministerial duties” and that he or she has “no power to solely determine, accept, reject, or otherwise adjudicate or resolve disputes over the proper list of electors, the validity of electors, or the votes of electors.”

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What really makes him a 'wimp" in my eyes... GopherGal Oct 26 #1
At least Pence had the decency COL Mustard Oct 26 #19
But Mike Pence's son saved the Republic TheJillMill Oct 26 #26
I did not know that. COL Mustard Oct 27 #30
Children can be so mean. twodogsbarking Oct 26 #2
We're back to phone calls again... Hugin Oct 26 #3
I spit out my coffee..well played! BattleRow Oct 26 #12
Go directly to the top of the Enemies List, Bayard Oct 26 #4
The question now is: what are Democrats and Independents doing to prepare for Vance to... Ol Janx Spirit Oct 26 #5
"refuse to certify the next presidential election" BumRushDaShow Oct 26 #7
Thank you for the reminder! It was also true that Pence really had the same roll--which was the basis for his... Ol Janx Spirit Oct 26 #9
"Democrats need a plan as well." BumRushDaShow Oct 26 #10
It's hard to even imagine what a modern-day civil war would look like between MAGA and everyone else... Ol Janx Spirit Oct 26 #11
"I was thinking about more of a PR and legal strategy" BumRushDaShow Oct 26 #14
Even before social media history was not kind to powerful interests that had or took control over... Ol Janx Spirit Oct 26 #16
"PR doesn't actually depend on controlling the media." BumRushDaShow Oct 26 #20
"Sometimes we are our own worst enemy." Ol Janx Spirit Oct 26 #28
With thousands of OTA broadcast (TV/radio), satellite, cable and streaming channels BumRushDaShow Oct 27 #29
I miss those old machines too. There was something fascinating about the mechanical nature of the whole... Ol Janx Spirit Oct 27 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author TheJillMill Oct 26 #25
Re:7 Has anyone broken the news to VP Vance? BattleRow Oct 26 #13
He's too busy taking vacations and humping couches to understand what it means. BumRushDaShow Oct 26 #17
Couch tater wanna be dick tater.. BattleRow Oct 26 #18
But we know he is also a true hater. BumRushDaShow Oct 26 #21
Wow ... BRDS what's gotten into you lately? FakeNoose Oct 26 #22
LOL BumRushDaShow Oct 26 #23
And that my friends is how the bloated bully Buddyzbuddy Oct 26 #6
👏 Well stated. Duppers Oct 26 #8
Thank you. Buddyzbuddy Oct 26 #15
One thing about pence though bluestarone Oct 26 #24
He doesn't even need to pardon himself iemanja Oct 26 #27
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