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pat_k

(11,770 posts)
8. WTF
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:24 AM
Sep 11

He wasn't a federal or state government official or military member, so one can't claim either of those as a reason for ordering flags flown at half-staff. Flags are also flown at half-staff to mark a national tragedy.

The only national tragedy I see here is that the per capita number of gun deaths in America is more than 10 TIMES that of comparable high-income countries. And that number is primarily driven by a gun homicide rate that is 25 TIMES that of comparable high-income countries.

THAT is the national tragedy.

Perhaps every governor who gives a shit about the intolerable number of PREVENTABLE gun deaths in America should order flags to be flown at half-staff until this nation passes meaningful gun control and puts big money into interventions and community-based programs that are PROVEN to reduce gun violence.

The gun death of a man who has dedicated himself to ensuring we DO NOTHING to reduce the number of gun deaths in this nation is absolutely NOT a national tragedy.

I am appalled that any governor who claims to stand strong for REAL American values -- values like human-rights, rule of law, religious freedom, and self-governance, and the thinking underlying those values, among them rationality, compassion as a moral imperative, and scientific inquiry -- would compromise our collective values to honor this man who was hellbent on destroying anything that was halfway decent about this country.

Sure, if you've ordered flags to be flown at half-staff every year on Sept 11 as remembrance, then certainly, do it again. But make the reason CRYSTAL CLEAR. For goodness sake, don't elevate this horrible man with ANY honors.

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So has Gov. Beshear Bayard Sep 11 #1
OMFG! This is wrong in so many ways. nt Exp Sep 11 #2
I have always felt popsdenver Sep 11 #17
A gesture as empty-headed as it is empty BeyondGeography Sep 11 #3
bleh NJCher Sep 11 #4
Bowing to king tRump, the kinky king of russiastan. nt ImNotGod Sep 11 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author fujiyamasan Sep 11 #6
Minnesota and New York were the states that officially lowered their flags in remembrance of Speaker Emerita Melissa ImNotGod Sep 11 #7
I'd love to see someone explain that. Karasu Sep 11 #15
Me too! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sep 11 #19
WTF pat_k Sep 11 #8
Best post I've seen all damn day since this happened. Thank you. Karasu Sep 11 #14
In re: The obsession some Dems have for winning over "Chet" pat_k Sep 11 #9
Fuck Kirk vercetti2021 Sep 11 #10
💯% correct... No memorializing this vile human being JCMach1 Sep 11 #12
Just no... And something I absolutely will not forget JCMach1 Sep 11 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author C Moon Sep 11 #13
Am I missing something? I don't see anything in Polis's statement that he ordered the flag to be lowered to half-staff generalbetrayus Sep 11 #16
It might be a bait-and-switch ... mollify MAGAts a bit when they see the flags, but don't catch the 9/11 connection. eppur_se_muova Sep 11 #18
Shapiro references Kirk within the OP link MichMan Sep 11 #20
He will not be my choice for the presidency question everything Sep 11 #21
Why do flags fly at half-staff? question everything Sep 11 #22
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