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62. Now imagine if he stood in the race and there was a second debate that was similar to the first

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Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:19 PM

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In new book, Kamala Harris says it was reckless to let Biden make reelection decision on his own [View all] Jose Garcia Sep 10 OP

Some of the plan was brilliant, some of it handled very badly. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #1

Well that's a delicate subject bucolic_frolic Sep 10 #2

Hard to give up power Wifes husband Sep 10 #3

Biden would have beaten Trump a second time. Giving up incumbency was not smart. Blues Heron Sep 10 #4

The old Biden would have Polybius Sep 10 #8

Biden was dead in the water after the debate. Du916 Sep 10 #61

Now imagine if he stood in the race and there was a second debate that was similar to the first Polybius Sep 10 #62

Yes. That debate was predictable by 2022. We all knew it could happen. thought crime Thursday #64

That's seriously debatable Oeditpus Rex Sep 10 #12

It cost him INDEPENDENT votes in SWING STATES N/T TexasBushwhacker Sep 10 #42

14 percent of Biden voters in 2020 Oeditpus Rex Sep 10 #55

I agree Deminpenn Thursday #65

He dropped out after his staff finally told him how badly he was polling Jose Garcia Sep 10 #19

Nominating the incumbent is usually a no brainer, but... LudwigPastorius Sep 10 #35

Well, the enemy camp has one who'll get there during THIS four-year term. calimary Sep 10 #41

'Biden Old & Demented' was 99% swiftboating/projectiom from the Trump campaign. emulatorloo Sep 10 #47

I agree entirely. Joe made many good decisions in office. Raven123 Sep 10 #48

I really think he would have lost. NH Ethylene Sep 10 #49

He should have resigned mid point of his term and this would Autumn Sep 10 #5

Seriously? ihaveaquestion Sep 10 #21

Yes I'm serious. Which part did you not understand? Autumn Sep 10 #43

What I understand is that this is some sort of fantasmic wishful thinking. ihaveaquestion Sep 10 #45

So what. It's a discussion board and I made a comment. Autumn Sep 10 #46

Are you sure you want discussion of your comments? Doesn't seem like you can deal with it. ihaveaquestion Sep 10 #50

I can deal with what I posted just fine. I didn't address my comment to you, I owe you Autumn Sep 10 #54

I think that is a reasonable premise. Chemical Bill Sep 10 #59

The Atlantic has a large excerpt from 107 Days. The link is provided. 24601 Sep 10 #6

"If you love the United States enough..." Martin Eden Sep 10 #17

You're right - poor off the cuff wording on my part. n/t 24601 Sep 10 #23

Or at least preface it with BaronChocula Sep 10 #36

So Rare the Truth Akakoji Sep 10 #7

OMG! Clouds Passing Sep 10 #9

Yes and I find it very disturbing PatSeg Sep 10 #14

Where does the buck stop? Martin Eden Sep 10 #20

It was his decision. We can't assume it was anyone else's and take away his agency. ihaveaquestion Sep 10 #22

It's sickening. God it's so hard to find a Democrat who isn't madibella Sep 10 #56

Maybe ... however I still say that the US isn't ready for a black woman President FakeNoose Sep 10 #10

She has already said she won't run for Gov of CA Bengus81 Sep 10 #11

The U.S. still isn't ready for a woman president, period Oeditpus Rex Sep 10 #15

Yes ... sadly ... this is also my conclusion FakeNoose Sep 10 #16

Clinton received nearly 3M more votes in 2016 than the NAZI that lords over the US and 2.1% more votes Bengus81 Sep 10 #25

That's a separate issue iemanja Sep 10 #18

She had a lot of praise for Joe. The Dems lost. They weren't prepared. Let's stick together. twodogsbarking Sep 10 #13

I don't think this public soul searching is a great thing. LisaM Sep 10 #24

I hear you. I can't with this right now, during a 12-alarm fire Alice B. Sep 10 #29

Kamala was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Talitha Sep 10 #26

To your wondering Talitha.... RiverStone Sep 10 #31

Below, what I concluded also, plus the rest of that which you expressed... sprinkleeninow Sep 10 #39

Woulda' Coulda' Shoulda' FalloutShelter Sep 10 #27

Hate me if you want to but I would go further genxlib Sep 10 #28

Joe was the right choice in 2020 AdamGG Sep 10 #33

Hate me even more LiberalLovinLug Sep 10 #37

I wanted Bloomberg in 2020 Polybius Sep 10 #52

SO... Mike Nelson Sep 10 #30

Kamala did a superb job of mounting a campaign on short notice, but... AdamGG Sep 10 #32

My view is that VP Harris would have been an outstanding President... NNadir Sep 10 #34

I agree PatSeg Sep 10 #40

It was a terribly challenging place to be in history BaronChocula Sep 10 #38

While I don't disagree with her, Elessar Zappa Sep 10 #44

I agree with you...maybe today's current events will take the attention away from her book mtngirl47 Sep 10 #51

Not interested kacekwl Sep 10 #53

One of these days, I'm not going to write a book. usonian Sep 10 #57

Couldn't Harris have rendered some kind of opinion to Biden back in June 2023? Old Testament Libera Sep 10 #58

Help me out, my memory isn't what it used to be. Chemical Bill Sep 10 #60

So help me out here BlueSpot Sep 10 #63

Losing candidates need to point the finger at themselves, not Deminpenn Thursday #66