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197. Revolutionary times breed revolutionary violence.

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:36 PM

Sep 10

This is not a celebratory comment but a lament.

How much pain, suffering and death do you think the working- and middle-classes will endure before dealing out a little payback of their own?

We need a new FDR to save capitalism from itself.

PS. Also: Where is the looooooooong overdue ban and control of certain problematic guns?

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Trump ally Charlie Kirk fatally shot in Utah as 'person of interest' in custody [View all] BumRushDaShow Sep 10 OP

Was he really shot ... or was he "Chumpy" shot? FakeNoose Sep 10 #1

Guess I'll start ignoring the G.O.P. Epstein pedophila problem BoRaGard Sep 10 #10

Yeah - for now JustAnotherGen Sep 10 #84

Does GOP Dem_in_Nebr. Sep 10 #162

magapubs JustAnotherGen Sep 10 #248

"Wow, nothing's working on this Epstein mess" ... DoBW Sep 10 #133

They did have that dinner meeting last night minus CK 🤔 Clouds Passing Sep 10 #250

There's up close video. If he ain't dead I'll be shocked. LoveSucky Sep 10 #42

Yes, he has died. nt Callie1979 Sep 10 #235

thank you barbtries Sep 10 #61

Another source mcar Sep 10 #2

Temu Butler stunt? RockRaven Sep 10 #3

Nope orangecrush Sep 10 #80

At 2:51, someone (not suspect) in custody OnlinePoker Sep 10 #4

The older bald white hair guy ? JI7 Sep 10 #20

There is close up video at this link. Don't think he survived. Extreme graphic warning Mr.WeRP Sep 10 #43

Yikes! LeftInTX Sep 10 #48

Yes, that's the one I saw on X. OnlinePoker Sep 10 #60

we'll soon know barbtries Sep 10 #65

Good find. llmart Sep 10 #178

My 2-cents: otchmoson Sep 10 #264

except quakerboy Sep 10 #196

Yeah, liberal protestors. n/t Chemical Bill Sep 10 #236

Tots and pears...now EPSTEIN EPSTEIN EPSTEIN Bengus81 Sep 10 #261

yeah that doesn't seem survivable in any way, but I'm not a doctor MissB Sep 10 #72

I mean, you kinda need your carotid artery Queso Delicioso Sep 10 #88

I suppose so MissB Sep 10 #92

you've got redundancy, two of them quakerboy Sep 10 #215

On the plus side... Queso Delicioso Sep 10 #243

Holy fuck orangecrush Sep 10 #79

Looks like they got the aorta. (Actually got the carotid or jugular, but leaving it up since I already got replies) LeftInTX Sep 10 #83

Hopefully he didn't suffer orangecrush Sep 10 #99

I froze the video. It looks like the neck. At first, I thought he was shot in chest due to the location of the blood. LeftInTX Sep 10 #112

Reddit took it down already. orangecrush Sep 10 #121

Welcome back to 1968... Moostache Sep 10 #122

He is instantly lights out. I don't think he even registered it. joshcryer Sep 10 #167

more like the carotid artery, the one that is along side of neck and feeds the brain Attilatheblond Sep 10 #120

I agree. I froze the video. At first I thought it was the aorta because of the location of the blood LeftInTX Sep 10 #135

I am military marksman rated, not even sharp shooter Mr.WeRP Sep 10 #155

It was his neck, likely jugular... loss of blood to the brain Mr.WeRP Sep 10 #153

Aorta is in the chest/abdomen. markodochartaigh Sep 10 #233

I know. I was wrong. I was basing on the blood spewing out, but the blood was pumping downward. LeftInTX Sep 10 #234

it would take a expert trauma team right on the spot lapfog_1 Sep 10 #86

Not enough O- anywhere to save him. I believe he bled out in minutes likesmountains 52 Sep 10 #177

No way he survived that angrychair Sep 10 #93

Dunno. I'm offering lots'a pears. 3Hotdogs Sep 10 #150

OMG WiVoter Sep 10 #102

They took it down orangecrush Sep 10 #104

Reddit Just Removed It WiVoter Sep 10 #110

It has been pulled by Reddit Bev54 Sep 10 #111

I recorded it. LeftInTX Sep 10 #134

I'm seeing report say blood is AI. I haven't looked and I'm not going to. I'll let written postings sort it out. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 10 #151

That report was prob written by AI Mr.WeRP Sep 10 #266

Yeah, a neck shot from 200 yd implies a rifle cartridge was used NickB79 Sep 10 #163

Nope underpants Sep 10 #183

Charlie Kirk, a prominent conservative activist and Trump ally, dies after shooting at Utah campus event Cha Sep 10 #226

Apparently NOT the shooter. NO suspect in custody. Callie1979 Sep 10 #237

Tots and pears for Charlie Jilly_in_VA Sep 10 #5

Isn't he the entitled whiner white guy who said "I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage" Attilatheblond Sep 10 #96

that fucker doesn't even deserve that gopiscrap Sep 10 #195

Thoughts 'n' prayers. Ocelot II Sep 10 #6

Will he be sporting a Kotex? LeftInTX Sep 10 #7

After watching the video: I doubt it very much Attilatheblond Sep 10 #100

I'm sure the mortician will be able to fix it right up with wax and spackle. Nobody will even notice. QueerDuck Sep 10 #192

Post removed Post removed Sep 10 #8

Fuck that Ponietz Sep 10 #34

Again, war is hell. The Grand Illuminist Sep 10 #87

That's why you used a clap emoji! Ponietz Sep 10 #199

This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Sep 10 #9

Probably JustAnotherGen Sep 10 #90

You know they will, it's in their DNA KS Toronado Sep 10 #144

In Utah! Not likely n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 10 #145

GUN RIGHTS, Duppers Sep 10 #154

Musk just claimed Democrats are the party of murder Farmer-Rick Sep 10 #204

Atta boy Musk...that statement will improve sales of Tesla Bengus81 Sep 10 #263

What, no good guy with a gun? Dulcinea Sep 10 #11

It is what it is JustAnotherGen Sep 10 #12

Reminds Me of When George Wallace Was Shot MrWowWow Sep 10 #13

Thoughts and prayers to good ole' Chuck. Probatim Sep 10 #14

The vid showed up on my X feed... Mark.b2 Sep 10 #15

I saw the close up video, he is 100% dead. joshcryer Sep 10 #26

Meh. EarthFirst Sep 10 #16

Charlie Kirk: "It's worth to have [...] some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment." joshcryer Sep 10 #31

Yup. EarthFirst Sep 10 #62

Looked up the actual quote AZJonnie Sep 10 #74

So sorry, I thought I posted the link, here's the link for prosperity: joshcryer Sep 10 #82

Hoist, meet petard. OMGWTF Sep 10 #131

And what about when the victims are innocent Mtnmama Sep 10 #142

that's what i keep thinking as i'm reading this thread... orleans Sep 10 #225

Sooo worth it, right? Wow electric_blue68 Sep 10 #259

Post removed Post removed Sep 10 #17

Everything Trump Touches Dies RockRaven Sep 10 #21

Post removed Post removed Sep 10 #23

The poster didn't say that JustAnotherGen Sep 10 #32

Amongst all the reading comprehension failures posted on DU regularly, this one stands out. RockRaven Sep 10 #41

Getting real easy to spot the ones that have a different agenda, isn't it. Eliot Rosewater Sep 10 #172

Show me where the poster said that mcar Sep 10 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Blues Heron Sep 10 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author whopis01 Sep 10 #24

Sadly, war is hell. The Grand Illuminist Sep 10 #28

No, that's Republicans who shot and killed democratic officials JI7 Sep 10 #29

Get used to it JustAnotherGen Sep 10 #30

You are right The Grand Illuminist Sep 10 #113

We don't know who shot him. LeftInTX Sep 10 #36

If it's a Republican, you won't know. The media makes sure to downplay that. live love laugh Sep 10 #109

If he's a Republican, he's a mentally ill lone wolf acting alone Orrex Sep 10 #184

No one in this thread before you "hoped" he, or anyone else, would die muriel_volestrangler Sep 10 #44

Yeah, pretty chickenshit to cheer murder Ponietz Sep 10 #45

Hoping he dies & being apathetic to his situation are not the same thing. CrispyQ Sep 10 #47

I don't think he'll have a tune to change after this calguy Sep 10 #118

Thank you of course they are not Eliot Rosewater Sep 10 #171

"If we don't make it dangerous to be a Nazi, they'll make it dangerous not to be." GoneOffShore Sep 10 #49

this mike_c Sep 10 #75

Try not to confuse individual opinions with "Democratic Party plans" Torchlight Sep 10 #85

You tripped over yourself ignoring Republicans, who are actually trying to kill millions, to point fingers for "hoping"? live love laugh Sep 10 #97

Gosh, where were you when 11 people were massacred in a little boat? bluestarone Sep 10 #101

What proof is there that the shooter was on left? cpamomfromtexas Sep 10 #119

Hate to tell you tonekat Sep 10 #130

Saw the video on X. OnlinePoker Sep 10 #18

I just saw it too. Doesn't look good nor does this report underpants Sep 10 #38

I do not support violence sarisataka Sep 10 #19

He may have become an example of get the red out Sep 10 #33

Yes it is a problem, however if I oppose other shootings sarisataka Sep 10 #81

I don't understand get the red out Sep 10 #94

There are more than a few here cheering this action sarisataka Sep 10 #105

I hate it when someone is shot get the red out Sep 10 #221

You are a better person than I am JustAnotherGen Sep 10 #59

Same here orangecrush Sep 10 #91

Sometimes justice happens to true evil without any help JCMach1 Sep 10 #257

Evil, yes. But is "justice" sarisataka Sep 10 #262

Justice is a concept and it doesn't always come the way you would prefer JCMach1 Sep 10 #271

I would be careful when wielding a blade with two edges sarisataka Sep 10 #272

This is the agenda they have been pushing for years JCMach1 Sep 10 #273

Yes indeed, there is much karmic irony in his death sarisataka Sep 10 #275

Not in this case. I can look at Saddam, Qadaffi, even stepping back to Mussolini JCMach1 Sep 10 #276

Luke 22:36 sarisataka Sep 10 #277

The ONLY comment I will make is to ask UTAH? hlthe2b Sep 10 #25

Fair comment/point JustAnotherGen Sep 10 #37

This is in Orem, quite red obamanut2012 Sep 10 #51

Well JustAnotherGen Sep 10 #56

Oh the carnage! LeftInTX Sep 10 #70

Fingers crossed JoseBalow Sep 10 #27

Collateral damage for the right for gun humpers to carry guns. StarryNite Sep 10 #35

Direct quote from 2023 underpants Sep 10 #46

Wow! Oh the irony! StarryNite Sep 10 #52

Of course in that tweet, Charlie frames it as simply "the second amendment' banner. LiberalLovinLug Sep 10 #114

Definitely tragic but not a surprise. IzzaNuDay Sep 10 #194

Well that's a damn shame, ain't it? QueerDuck Sep 10 #39

MAGA fuckstain chickens coming home to roost. MAGA is all shitty. Piss on those fucking turds. SoFlaBro Sep 10 #40

Trump didn't waste any time saying he's praying for Kirk jgmiller Sep 10 #50

If trump is praying for him Beachnutt Sep 10 #129

Who is Charlie Kirk Bluestocking Sep 10 #53

Right wing firebrand and Trump supporter. n/t OnlinePoker Sep 10 #64

Post removed Post removed Sep 10 #76

I hope not Miguelito Loveless Sep 10 #161

He will make him a martyr but I'm sure there are only two things going through Trump's mind right now jgmiller Sep 10 #249

I agree Marcus Pullarius Sep 10 #270

IDC. roamer65 Sep 10 #54

Tots and Pears AZJonnie Sep 10 #57

no sympathy whatsoever moonshinegnomie Sep 10 #58

Thoughts and Prayers Resistance1 Sep 10 #63

Horrific OC375 Sep 10 #66

Post removed Post removed Sep 10 #67

My sympathies and prayers for Kirk. Jacson6 Sep 10 #68

Thanks for sanity Ponietz Sep 10 #98

I always think what if someone shot me for my views. n/t Jacson6 Sep 10 #108

Yep. Saddest thing of all is that it's so possible by now. calimary Sep 10 #219

Same Here WiVoter Sep 10 #107

he literally said that gun deaths are acceptable to insure gun rights moonshinegnomie Sep 10 #128

ridiculed and shunned but not shot and killed DBoon Sep 10 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author WiVoter Sep 10 #69

Wow. He looked(s) young, too. He probably would have been a future rightwing evil leader. C Moon Sep 10 #71

I haven't really been keeping up with the loons. Is Kirk currently in the Trump good graces because he's not Vinca Sep 10 #73

Post removed Post removed Sep 10 #77

Welp. One less. Queso Delicioso Sep 10 #78

Live by the gun Smilo Sep 10 #89

Bots and bears NewHendoLib Sep 10 #95

Violent country, violent rhetorics, firearms everywhere, so unfortunate Denvermosaic Sep 10 #103

Damn shame CanonRay Sep 10 #106

Compare how this crowd scatters as opposed to the trump incident Chakaconcarne Sep 10 #115

Soooo he's sending the National Guards, right? Denvermosaic Sep 10 #116

Socks and pears....n/t Upthevibe Sep 10 #117

Now maybe the GOP will take gun violence seriously? Maybe? Grokenstein Sep 10 #123

twitter is reporting hes dead moonshinegnomie Sep 10 #125

wow Kali Sep 10 #126

He has been critical of the orange felon lately so I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter is a magaloon ! kimbutgar Sep 10 #127

If He Were To Survive WiVoter Sep 10 #132

Reagan survived a shooting. Didn't change his stance on guns. Aristus Sep 10 #147

Mike Lee was shot at a congressional... 3catwoman3 Sep 10 #203

I think that was Steve Scalise. BumRushDaShow Sep 10 #260

I think you're right. My apologies. 3catwoman3 Sep 10 #265

I understand!! BumRushDaShow Sep 10 #269

What I wanna know is. LW1977 Sep 10 #136

Just what we need exboyfil Sep 10 #137

a quote from him a couple years ago moonshinegnomie Sep 10 #138

Quote of the year. calimary Sep 10 #223

Fuck him! BidenRocks Sep 10 #139

Post removed Post removed Sep 10 #141

Welcome to DU sarisataka Sep 10 #149

A preacher of hatred apparently got somebody to hate him Mysterian Sep 10 #143

He reaped what he sowed. Beacool Sep 10 #146

Uh NO.. no "prayers" for CK. Cha Sep 10 #148

How soon untill the National Guard arrives in Utah? CanonRay Sep 10 #152

His final act for red don not fooled Sep 10 #156

Kirk was answering a question about transgender mass shooters in America seconds before he was shot 634-5789 Sep 10 #157

Instant karma Ponietz Sep 10 #224

Obviously shot - I mean "thoughts" and yobrault1 Sep 10 #158

... orangecrush Sep 10 #202

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Sep 10 #159

Of course, the number 1 suspect, I'm sure, is... Montauk6 Sep 10 #160

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Sep 10 #168

Promoting viiolence leads to, well, violonce. twodogsbarking Sep 10 #164

The irony is just so... kerouac2 Sep 10 #165

Saw the clip, he was definitely shot. denbot Sep 10 #166

The clip I saw was from a front seat vantage point wolfie001 Sep 10 #170

Critical condition as of 3 pm CT. TexasBushwhacker Sep 10 #169

Deseret News reporting he is dead Kali Sep 10 #174

Probably the most accurate source LeftInTX Sep 10 #180

Never heard of them Justice Brandeis Sep 10 #187

pretty big if not main news org in Utah Kali Sep 10 #188

Saw the clip before it was taken down orangecrush Sep 10 #209

I saw a clip that looked like a movie prop Kali Sep 10 #230

Not a gun expert orangecrush Sep 10 #241

I have no idea Kali Sep 10 #244

Utah orangecrush Sep 10 #252

As if 2:41 MT they are saying his condition is unknown TexasBushwhacker Sep 10 #210

think they caught somebody, or maybe not Kali Sep 10 #232

Hope he pulls through and comes out with a renwed perspective on things. SSJVegeta Sep 10 #173

nbc 3m ago / 3:14 PM CDT No suspect in custody, university says: The school previously said in an alert that police had riversedge Sep 10 #175

I was just about to post that. NO SUSPECT IN CUSTODY underpants Sep 10 #185

Rotten Ego Aggressive Propoganda Brainfodder Sep 10 #176

Not Good RecoveringJournalist Sep 10 #179

No problem orangecrush Sep 10 #214

Hasn't AI found the suspect YET? bucolic_frolic Sep 10 #181

I'm hearing reports . . . AverageOldGuy Sep 10 #182

I'm sure he'll achieve the best possible outcome Orrex Sep 10 #198

... orangecrush Sep 10 #217

Sounds like a dangerous place RANDYWILDMAN Sep 10 #186

watching Nicolle Wallace mnhtnbb Sep 10 #189

This almost makes me wish he'd survive.. ananda Sep 10 #200

This is clearly the kind of country Republicans want (including Kirk himself), so I couldn't give less of a fuck. Karasu Sep 10 #190

I'm not posting it but there's a close up video. I can't imagine he lives through this. underpants Sep 10 #191

Clots and hair nows not the time. Blue Full Moon Sep 10 #193

Revolutionary times breed revolutionary violence. cer7711 Sep 10 #197

Never happening, because even the Republicans feigning outrage over this won't do fucking shit when it comes to gun Karasu Sep 10 #253

Trump has posted Kirk is dead mnhtnbb Sep 10 #201

The orange timms139 Sep 10 #205

Elections Canceled??? rustysgurl Sep 10 #206

He was planning on doing that regardless, or at least controlling them and turning them into a Russia-style farce. Karasu Sep 10 #211

He died according to krasnov barbtries Sep 10 #207

AP "Live Updates" has 45 reporting that he has died. Waiting for The Guardian update. BumRushDaShow Sep 10 #208

Charlie Kirk has died! A_Steel_Magnolia Sep 10 #212

He's a Memory Now OC375 Sep 10 #213

Yeah, I'm going to wait for a report from someone who isn't a habitual, fucking liar Aviation Pro Sep 10 #216

The Guardian has now updated. BumRushDaShow Sep 10 #218

CNN reporting he is dead YoshidaYui Sep 10 #220

People reporting it also barbtries Sep 10 #222

Some people say ... orangecrush Sep 10 #254

TRUMP: Charlie Kirk is dead. Mawspam2 Sep 10 #227

The future suddenly LPBBEAR Sep 10 #228

I can't seem to muster any sympathy. hamsterjill Sep 10 #231

How about the Epstein files, Mr Dictator? quakerboy Sep 10 #229

I'll wait for a reliable source Marthe48 Sep 10 #238

Every reliable source says he was shot and is dead. LeftInTX Sep 10 #240

So, not The Onion? Reality is so confusing! LT Barclay Sep 10 #239

Keep this thought. Blue Full Moon Sep 10 #242

Some jackass GOP politician will demand that Kirk's body lie in state in the Rotunda of the Capitol bldg. QueerDuck Sep 10 #245

Kirk bromeando Sep 10 #246

The video of the shooting was very nasty. BigDemVoter Sep 10 #247

Tots and Pears. nt Xipe Totec Sep 10 #251

Charlie Kirk Says Gun Deaths 'Unfortunately' Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment UpInArms Sep 10 #255

According to Galatians 6 Deminpenn Sep 10 #256

Okay. nt Exp Sep 10 #258

Hey, Chuck Sam I Yam Sep 10 #267

This is not good for us PCB66 Sep 10 #268

A disgusting act of senseless violence Polybius Sep 10 #274