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31. Deadline: Legal Blog--Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 04:06 PM
Sep 8

Trump recently signaled he’ll ask the Supreme Court to review his previous appeals court loss in the other Carroll case, where she won $5 million.

Will the right-wing Supreme Court majority rule that rape is fine if the rapist is a president and the president rapist should be allowed to defame his victims? Only time will tell.

Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump www.msnbc.com/deadline-whi...

@jimrissmiller.bsky.social 2025-09-08T18:18:54.534Z

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/e-jean-carroll-defamation-trump-loses-83-million-rcna229822

In the first of two related cases that went to trial, a jury found Trump liable for sexual assault and defamation and awarded Carroll $5 million. The 2nd Circuit previously upheld those damages in the case in which Trump has a Supreme Court petition due Nov. 10.

In Monday’s ruling, the New York-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit concluded that the five-figure damages “were reasonable in light of the extraordinary and egregious facts of this case.” The three-judge panel also rejected Trump’s arguments that the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling saves him and that the district judge who presided over the case made erroneous legal rulings.....

Monday’s decision involves the second of the two cases that went to trial, where a jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million for statements Trump made when he was still in office. The panel rejected his argument that the damages were excessive, reasoning that there was “ample evidence that Trump was recklessly indifferent to Carroll’s health and safety.” The panel noted that his statements “had a domino effect,” as Carroll “was subjected to ongoing and prolific harassment as a result of these statements, including a multitude of death threats and other threats of physical injury.”

Trump’s conduct “supports a significant punitive damages award — it involved malice and deceit, caused severe emotional injury, and continued over at least a five-year period,” the panel concluded.

The three judges on Monday’s panel were appointed by former Presidents Joe Biden and Barack Obama. In the $5 million case that’s further along on appeal, Trump had asked the full 2nd Circuit to review the case before taking it to the Supreme Court. The full appeals court declined to do so, but two Trump appointees dissented while suggesting that Trump was treated unfairly. In his forthcoming petition to the justices in that case, his lawyers might seek to highlight that dissent to a likeminded Supreme Court majority. That’s all to say that in both Carroll cases, the appeals court’s rejections of Trump’s arguments might not be the final word.

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Too bad, so sad. C_U_L8R Sep 8 #1
Sex Offender Trump... Mike Nelson Sep 8 #2
Pay up...loser! LakeVermilion Sep 8 #3
Good. GopherGal Sep 8 #4
Just don't take a check. rubbersole Sep 8 #16
Appeals have to be EXPENSIVE!! ProudMNDemocrat Sep 8 #5
He has PACs that pay his legal bills. maxsolomon Sep 8 #13
Russian oligarchs orangecrush Sep 8 #21
Appeals court tells Trump to kick rocks, they aren't throwing out the $83.3 million E. Jean Carroll verdict LetMyPeopleVote Sep 8 #6
There should be a limit to the appeals. sheshe2 Sep 8 #7
Mike Johnson just announced that God, who was an FBI informant, said this is wrong. Eh men. twodogsbarking Sep 8 #8
Pay the judgement, billionaire. republianmushroom Sep 8 #9
He'll run directly to the SCOTUS Wednesdays Sep 8 #10
Probably, but there was a story recently about the lower courts grumbling that SCOTUS makes them look bad when CrispyQ Sep 8 #27
SCOTUS: "Oh yeah? So whattaya gonna do about it?" nt Wednesdays Sep 8 #32
Yup. I read that was his plan. Let's see how corrupt they can be. Joinfortmill Sep 8 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Sep 8 #34
Next up: SCOTUS. live love laugh Sep 8 #11
This all happened BEFORE he even considered running for POTUS. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 8 #22
And you think that will stop him? live love laugh Sep 8 #26
What will "stop him" is a fatal heart attack. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 8 #29
Has Chump paid a dime to E. Jean yet? RussBLib Sep 8 #12
Since these were civil cases BumRushDaShow Sep 8 #15
He'll ask if he can pay her in his new crypto ripoff currency. -nt CrispyQ Sep 8 #28
He'll follow the normal template. Keep appealing up the ladder. maxsolomon Sep 8 #14
Well, I hope they don't. calimary Sep 8 #23
Good!! Beacool Sep 8 #17
Doesn't the presidential immunity thing only apply to official duties in office? Bayard Sep 8 #18
Two other things to consider jmowreader Sep 8 #19
Yes, that's what I meant Bayard Sep 8 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Sep 8 #25
His goons at the Supreme Court will probably toss out the judgment Denvermosaic Sep 8 #20
Sucks to be you Krasnov Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 8 #30
Deadline: Legal Blog--Supreme Court is last stand in E. Jean Carroll's legal vindication against Trump LetMyPeopleVote Sep 8 #31
Pay up pervert mountain grammy Sep 8 #35
Not to worry. Sammy Alito will save it for him. 3Hotdogs Sep 9 #36
Go E Jeanne jfz9580m Sep 9 #37
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