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... necessarily, to get into trouble.

They cited 18 U.S. Code § 1001, I think (after googling whether it was possible to be held accountable for lying when not under oath).

This is the (god help me) AI overview:

"18 U.S.C. § 1001 is a federal statute that criminalizes knowingly and willfully making false, fictitious, or fraudulent statements, concealing facts, or using false documents in any matter within the jurisdiction of the U.S. government or Congress. Penalties for this offense include fines and/or imprisonment for up to five years. The law requires the act to be material, performed within federal jurisdiction, and done with a knowing and willful intent to deceive..."