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TexasTowelie

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30. I never said that interest rates that high were fine because the rates are predatory
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jun 2016

which is why it is a good thing to stay away from payday lenders altogether. I also don't believe that 24% (and possibly 240%) would be high enough for those businesses to make a sufficient profit to cover their costs. Most of the people taking loans at payday loan companies have bad credit and some have even declared bankruptcies. In addition, customers may have multiple payday loans outstanding with different companies so they may be competing with the other companies to be the first in line to collect on their loan.

If payday loan companies were getting the cream of the crop as clients and the loans ran for longer periods of time (say 6 months, 1 year or 2 years) then there would be less administrative costs involved so that they could charge lower interest rates. If there was an automatic debit made when the worker had a direct deposit made then it might also be possible to make loans at a lower rate. Instead these businesses are making signature loans with no secured collateral to the riskiest prospects out there. The workers also may not be employed at their current employer or lived at their residence for a long period of time. Usually the only documentation that is required is one or two pay stubs and a bill with a street address. They are intended to be solutions to be used only in desperate situations or while the customer can obtain financing from more conventional means such as borrowing from a 401k account, bank or credit union.

These companies do not have the volume of business to charge lower rates like a bank or credit union can and their overhead chasing down delinquent and defaulted loans is much greater than those of banks or credit cards. They don't even have anything to foreclose against or repossess if it is a signature payday loan. While the interest rates are predatory it should also be noted that more serious financial harm could occur if you aren't able to obtain medical help, utilities may be shut off or a loved one (who contributes to the household) needs to be bailed out of jail.

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Dirty little secret. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #4
Another set of dirty little secrets. TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #7
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yes, I remember Mrs. Warren and was it Obama? mentioned post office banks..but I think Congress Sunlei Jun 2016 #15
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K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #6
To say that these rules... sendero Jun 2016 #10
I'll believe it when I see it indivisibleman Jun 2016 #11
That's because the people that use payday loans on a frequent basis TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #13
It works more like this: indivisibleman Jun 2016 #41
In that case TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #42
True indivisibleman Jun 2016 #45
Payday loans aren’t the problem. The problem is poverty. jtuck004 Jun 2016 #12
Preying on the poor is one thing that helps make people poor Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #17
great graphic! thanks jtuck /nt trudyco Jun 2016 #35
lend interest rate should be capped at whatever rate people with savings accounts receive. Sunlei Jun 2016 #16
All interest rates should be capped at 18% Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #18
good point. Even 18% is a fabulous profit, especially on 'front loaded' loans- loan sharks use. Sunlei Jun 2016 #20
If that were the case the businesses would not exist TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #22
Then a "loan shark" becomes a pawn shop again. Sunlei Jun 2016 #23
So, triple digit ruinous usury Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #24
I never said that interest rates that high were fine because the rates are predatory TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #30
That isn't possible TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #21
at 9% a front loaded loan is a fabulous profit for a loan shark. Banks 'take' 2% off the top of Sunlei Jun 2016 #25
Perhaps you need to bank with someone else besides Chase bank then? TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #32
I don't want to carry cash either. You're lucky to be close to a bank and have a 'safe' ATM. Sunlei Jun 2016 #33
Why not use a credit union? There are still a lot of those. trudyco Jun 2016 #36
DWS is having a sad today. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #26
Just making more hoops for the employees to jump through to verify a borrowers financial situation brewens Jun 2016 #27
search "payday loan", they scam people online- 4,710,000 results, people don't have to walk in. Sunlei Jun 2016 #28
I agree with some here trudyco Jun 2016 #38
Why not create competition and run them out of business? MichMan Jun 2016 #39
I'd like to see some flat-rate Islamic-style banking but you know the person who... Shandris Jun 2016 #40
How about telephone solicitation? bonemachine Jun 2016 #43
I've been receiving those phone calls also, TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #44
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