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karynnj

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12. How would a "damn good politician" blow ALL the advantages she had in 2008 and lose the nomination?
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 12:09 PM
Mar 2015

Granted Obama was exceptional, but to win he needed not just to be very good, but for HRC to run a mediocre campaign. In addition, he likely was helped by Edwards ending his unsuccessful candidacy before Super Tuesday.

Remember that HRC started out with puff pieces throughout the mainstream media (the right hated her, but they don't vote in the Democratic primaries. Her allies had a huge say in the way the election calendar was set -- with over 20 states on one early February day - after IA, NH, NV and SC. The design was done to benefit just one person - Clinton. Having 20 states in one day precludes candidates making their case face to face in each and every one of the states - as happens with a more spread out timeline. HRC had incredible name recognition and polled higher than anyone else.

This SuperTuesday was meant to be a wall for any other candidate. That was - incidentally her team's entire plan. When Obama came out essentially in a tie with her at that point, she was the one then at a disadvantage because he had already long before set up offices in the next wave of states and she hadn't done as much. (Mark Penn was said to have estimated that she would get ALL the California delegates with no other candidate breaking the 15% threshold. Here might be where Edwards pulling out could have helped. Edwards, himself, was polling so poorly everywhere that he likely would have been under the threshold everywhere. With him out, it became HRC vs Obama/Non HRC)

That said, I would suggest that this has nothing to do with how intelligent she is or how well she would govern. Not to mention, what it does show is that then and now, there are many very influential powerful people in both media and the party who know her well, have seen her abilities and for at least 12 years have strongly supported her eventually being President.

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Seems like a complete dodge. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #1
I'm thinking smack at Obama. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #2
Nah, it's substance-free pablum that doesn't break any new ground. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #3
While I don't want HRC as our President, I do give her credit for being a damn good politician. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #4
At this point her goal is to avoid damage geek tragedy Mar 2015 #5
How would a "damn good politician" blow ALL the advantages she had in 2008 and lose the nomination? karynnj Mar 2015 #12
Hillary won all the major primaries except Illinois cosmicone Mar 2015 #13
That goes to my point on how good her political team was karynnj Mar 2015 #18
So now foriegn affairs is all about.... Geronimoe Mar 2015 #6
Geronimoe donnasgirl Mar 2015 #7
good post Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #22
Very, very disappointing. BillZBubb Mar 2015 #8
Bleh Marrah_G Mar 2015 #9
LOL L0oniX Mar 2015 #10
Given Netanyahu's pre election comments that don't just go away, Netanyahu has to karynnj Mar 2015 #11
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #14
I don't see anything wrong with what she said. hollowdweller Mar 2015 #15
''Just say no to Israel.'' DeSwiss Mar 2015 #16
Give them another 3 Billion father founding Mar 2015 #17
Code for more construction. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #19
"Constructive" like this? woo me with science Mar 2015 #20
Gotta keep sellin' those bombs. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #21
Sanders and Warren both supported the Israeli bombardment of Gaza in 2014. Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #23
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