General Discussion

I'd be glad if you actually debated me on ideas I've posted on suggestions for change in the party after the election. I'd welcome an actual exchange of views. I respect you enough to believe you are capable of doing that.

Why don't you just say what your disagreements are with the ideas themselves? Why don't you just lay out where you actually disagree with them? Why does it seem to be so important to you to try to discredit me on a personal level? To use insult and insinuation and personal contempt against me and against others you disagree with? Is there a reason you can't just focus on the ideas rather than the person?

Do you really feel that I somehow have so much power that the ONLY things you can do to respond to me are the tools of invective?
Why does what I post even matter this much to you? I'm not sure why you seem to feel it's your sworn duty to do personal takedowns on me. I'm one unimportant guy on a small, message board.

And I admit error constantly.

But you're holding grudges against me for things in the dead past-things that have nothing to do with anything now. Do you not ever let ANYTHING go? Do you never move on about anything at all?

I've done all I can to put the Kamala thing to rest. I said a few things ages ago that I'd forgotten until this year's Kamala threads started. I truly had forgotten them-everybody who posts here forgets at least some of the things they posted in the past- and I had nothing to do with the attacks this spring. And I praise her now and have pledged to support her if nominated. So why are you belaboring THAT? What else do you want from me?

I apologized for the other thing, too. Nothing else to say on that. I admitted it was wrong and took responsibility from the start. All I said was that it was a mistake rather than malice. All of us make mistakes. Most human beings at some point or other have probably said something they regretted. It's weird to get through life without ever doing that. I'm fairly sure you have at some point, given that as far as I know you're not the Pope.

And really, in terms of the fortunes of our last nominee or of our party there's not that much I can personally be blamed for.

It's not as though it's my fault Trump won the Upper Midwest, for God's sakes-or that we couldn't take the Senate-or that the Comey thing happened-or that the Russians did what they did-or that voter suppression occurred.

And I don't claim to know it all. It's not being a know-it-all simply to post ideas. Most people here post ideas. And most HRC supporters don't respond to my OPs with your unrelenting hostility.

All I'm really saying is...stop with the personal aspect of it.

I don't deserve that from you and I don't think anybody else does.

Debate and discuss...ok?