General Discussion

but at some point "improve" becomes a degree of profound change that simply does not fit, even violates, the ideology of most Democrats. And that is where attempts at supposed "improvements" become destructive intents.

We all agree almost entirely on ultimate goals, with some differences of course. The huge differences, though, are in timetables, methods, and cooperation with those we disagree with, or lack of it.

Democrats are the ideological descendants of those who created our liberal democratic republic. Democrats believe (know!) that governance of our republic must include finding common ground with conservatives and reaching solutions that will work for all.

And that's the problem. Those who can see that only as weakness and corruption will always be frustrated and discontented in this party.

They really need to either drop out of politics or form their own party. A party that does not believe their first goal is to protect representative democracy, unacceptably imperfect as that process is to them. A party that can devote itself, as the Republicans are doing, to forcing its solutions on everyone else. That is their best chance for success.

They need to give up on trying to grab the Democratic Party assets and power instead of developing their own. They could never accomlish that before, try as they did, and of course can't now. Because mainstream Democrats never have and never will agree to those impassioned, anti-democratic methods, and there are lot more of us.