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alarimer

(17,146 posts)
16. Unity by suppressing dissenting views is not unity I can be part of.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jan 2017

There has been a lot of talk about that since the election. Some say that you should never criticize any sitting Democrat, no matter what they do, though I think that is an extreme view even here.

So, to that end, Democrats have to adhere, most of the time, to what they allegedly stand for. Part of the reason they lose is because they (not all but too many) do not do that. You cannot be "for the people" and then vote in favor of things that your corporate donors favor, when that is in direct opposition to what voters actually need.

It's this kind of thing that breeds cynicism of voters. And the Tea Party is not what you think it is. It is not grassroots or spontaneous. I don't think we need it. I mean, perhaps progressives can form something cohesive instead of each group working on its pet issue, but not a fake grassroots organization bankrolled by corporations. I would not favor that at all.

Here's an article on the origins of the Tea Party:

http://time.com/secret-origins-of-the-tea-party/

What didn’t become public until nearly 20 years later was that these themes of a Tea Party anti-tax, anti-regulation, and antigovernment revolt were then developed almost simultaneously by two of the largest tobacco companies—Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds—under the guise of political and business coalitions to fight excise taxes of all sorts, including cigarette taxes. In successive phases in the 1990s, with the Kochs’ CSE as its core mobilization network partner, Philip Morris and RJR helped create state-based anti-tax and anti-regulation propaganda campaigns such as Get Government Off Our Back, Enough is Enough, and Citizens Against Regressive Taxation.


Clearly there are other issues progressives need to work on, especially gerrymandering and voter suppression. It seems like it would be enough to solve those two issues to give the Democratic Party at least a fighting chance. Right now, something like 90% of incumbents win, almost no matter what they do so change is incredibly difficult.

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Will read whole thing later, but I must add that FOX News and Breitbart make a reality KittyWampus Jan 2017 #1
agreed the author is pretty much full of it but is correct Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #13
Have a CLEAR, STRONG, COMPELLING message on JOBS JOBS JOBS that people want to vote for. RBInMaine Jan 2017 #19
trump didnt have any clear strong or compelling message Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #22
Make America Great Again crazycatlady Jan 2017 #44
people will either vote for dems or live under republicon rule Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #23
It's clearly not enough to win elections on. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #37
then people should quit complaining since they got what Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #38
If that's the Dem party's official strategy, then this country is finished. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #39
it's not a message it's a fact Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #41
"Then what about the voters who couldn't/wouldn't vote for Hillary because of..." EL34x4 Jan 2017 #33
Exactly!!! "Liberals/Progressives continue to fight for their individual pet issues, instead of RKP5637 Jan 2017 #2
Exactly Dream Girl Jan 2017 #31
Might want to read that again. HassleCat Jan 2017 #3
Not the best solution. ranger2 Jan 2017 #15
What "liberal elite"? whathehell Jan 2017 #52
Good article cwydro Jan 2017 #4
"Here's the thing about politics. . ." DinahMoeHum Jan 2017 #5
Good article gulliver Jan 2017 #6
Feelings do matter in politics FarCenter Jan 2017 #7
Plus he does not talk about voter suppression or unverifiable voting machines that can be kimbutgar Jan 2017 #8
Yes, but it took years for them to get the power to cheat and part of this was about participation Dream Girl Jan 2017 #28
what this article seems to ignore was crosscheck etc all Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #9
+1, I'm super sick of these articles leaving out the overt cheating of the GOP in the form of voter uponit7771 Jan 2017 #27
See above, it was the culmination of a process Dream Girl Jan 2017 #32
Sigh...Another Article Full Of Advice For Dems Me. Jan 2017 #10
The GOPee..Loves to cheat and that's how they win. Stellar Jan 2017 #11
+1, and more of this shit that leaves all of this out as a factor uponit7771 Jan 2017 #29
yes MFM008 Jan 2017 #35
It is not that they don't care randr Jan 2017 #12
They win because they cheat. Like the Patriots. Drahthaardogs Jan 2017 #14
They win because they speak CLEARLY, they ORGANIZE, and they SHOW UP! Enough WHINING!!! RBInMaine Jan 2017 #17
Bullshit Drahthaardogs Jan 2017 #20
Then how to fight their cheating treestar Jan 2017 #26
How did they get into the position to cheat? Dream Girl Jan 2017 #36
Unity by suppressing dissenting views is not unity I can be part of. alarimer Jan 2017 #16
Democrats need a compelling affirmative message, need to get CLEAR, and get STRONG. Period! RBInMaine Jan 2017 #18
they do it because they don't have confidence treestar Jan 2017 #25
Yup...When you're dealing with a populace that thinks in terms of.... Jacob Boehme Jan 2017 #21
Kick and rec treestar Jan 2017 #24
It comes across as a very flat assessment of what's going on in today's politics SticksnStones Jan 2017 #30
Very good article. On point. EL34x4 Jan 2017 #34
Anything published by Kushner's rag is not meant to help Dems. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #40
The "Observer" is NOT Kushner's rag. His is the "New York Observer" DinahMoeHum Jan 2017 #43
Mea culpa. Thanks for the correction. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #50
Bill Maher said that the Democrats should have nominated a real bastard milestogo Jan 2017 #42
A followup: Democrats Are Lying About How Screwed They Are brooklynite Jan 2017 #45
I've been saying this since the election: the republicans win because they own the media. Initech Jan 2017 #46
Be wary of anything in the NY Observer NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #47
Brown's piece is in The Observer, NOT the "NY Observer" DinahMoeHum Jan 2017 #49
Well, that and having a Horatio Alger-addicted American population doesn't hurt. HughBeaumont Jan 2017 #48
I would add that no one cares about process or bipartisanship for its own sake yurbud Jan 2017 #51
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