General Discussion

What I meant is that they aren't worth accepting conservatism on everything else, on giving up on peace and equality.

I support all of those things, but none are life-changing and none can liberate the world, as long as permanent war and market economics are accepted as the natural order of things.

The end of apartheid in South Africa, for example, was sabotaged and made near-meaningless by the Western(and Clinton administration)insistence that the post-apartheid government pay off the debts of the apartheid regime and accept World Bank austerity
requirements that that made it impossible for the new government to make the investments it needed to make in housing, healthcare, education and jobs programs.

Or, to use a Sixties examples, why Dr. King realized that the passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts would fail to cause the changes that were needed of and by themselves, and decided to organize the Poor People's March to add economic and social equality to legal individual equality.

And why it's going to cause a backlash against LGBTQ people(and the supposedly liberal "hipsters", to a lesser degree) if those communities continue to be associated(and its an unfair association, because most of them aren't a part of it but have been used as figurehead symbols of it)with neighborhood gentrification plans that end up driving the poor, working-class and elderly residents of the gentrified communities away.

The need is to keep all the struggles for justice tied together, not just let them become boutique "causes" of the upper-middle class and "liberal" corporations trying to build good feelings toward "the brand".

Does that clarify?