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12. Are there really *that* many supposed liberals who "refuse to criticize surveillance under Obama?"

Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:51 PM

Jul 2014

Because I sure as hell don't see it...

EDIT: Before everyone reflexively starts pointing fingers in my direction, all I've asked for is:

1. Snow-Wald to account for the massive gaps, inconsistencies and still-unanswered questions in their official story; and tell the world how and why this thing really went down from beginning to end, warts and all...

2. Snow-Wald to widen the public discussion to other countries (**cough*cough** Russia), along with the complicity of Google, Apple, the TeleComs, and everyone else who they have allowed to dodge any kind of responsibility whatsoever...Not only have they escaped any serious discussion, but on some occasions Snow-Wald have intentionally shielded Google from being implicated in their stories...I want to know why...

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Bill Maher Blasts ‘Useless Obama Hacks without a Shred of Intellectual Honesty’ (NSA spying) [View all] marmar Jul 2014 OP

He's absolutely 100% right. truebrit71 Jul 2014 #1

I don't agree. Anyone can call themselves liberal and a lot of people out there incorrectly rhett o rick Jul 2014 #33

Thank you. Thank you. No liberal would oppose trade unions, raising the minimum wage, JDPriestly Jul 2014 #37

Well said. I am ok with your "the universe is energy". I believe in Einstein's God which rhett o rick Jul 2014 #49

Yeah, it ain't rocket science. raouldukelives Jul 2014 #47

You have a point, I can't think of any actual Liberal who would in any way even try to diminish the sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #50

Good point. Those people whose stands on issues switch depending on who is president rhett o rick Jul 2014 #55

I'll have to watch that clip. grasswire Jul 2014 #2

He must have been reading DU n/t n2doc Jul 2014 #3

He got it exactly right. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #4

damn right. nashville_brook Jul 2014 #5

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #6

knr frylock Jul 2014 #7

DU rec and bump TransitJohn Jul 2014 #8

K&R.... daleanime Jul 2014 #9

Yep. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #10

no, bill, it's not the liberals who are refusing to criticize obama over this shanti Jul 2014 #11

Not all democrats are liberal, proven many times over right at this very site. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #13

We also have the newbies who are doing the 11th commandment thing.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #19

heh. ¨Eeyore Dems¨ SammyWinstonJack Jul 2014 #59

Word Doctor_J Jul 2014 #23

Exactly! HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #32

Are there really *that* many supposed liberals who "refuse to criticize surveillance under Obama?" Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #12

I do not see many either. Apparently you are auto labeled as in favor of mass surveillance as soon Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #14

We don't expect perfection Oilwellian Jul 2014 #65

Well, on scale with say Hobby Lobby, it's 100-1. On reaction. maced666 Jul 2014 #20

Russia??? thesquanderer Jul 2014 #31

I just thought Russia was slightly relevant Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #34

There is no law against hypocrisy thesquanderer Jul 2014 #36

I suggest you start that Greenwald ' new book. truebrit71 Jul 2014 #35

There were a lot of them here, but they have suddenly and mysteriously become silent. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #38

I was wondering about our our most prolific propagandist myself. A Simple Game Jul 2014 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author A Simple Game Jul 2014 #44

You lost me at "Snow Wald" Armstead Jul 2014 #57

But he had boxes in his garage! BuelahWitch Jul 2014 #15

He left his girlfriend! n/t sendero Jul 2014 #39

Why is Obama continually associated with the left? raindaddy Jul 2014 #16

"The one great thing Snowden did was provide the proof." bvar22 Jul 2014 #17

Since the ascendancy of the DLC sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #18

Right You Are - Further Proof Of The DLC Impact Can Be Found In This Prophetic 1994 Interview cantbeserious Jul 2014 #22

Have you watched Bernie Sanders speech at the New Populist conference? JDPriestly Jul 2014 #40

If he runs I will support him. sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #48

Fucker needs to be link-bombed into submission mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #21

du rec. xchrom Jul 2014 #24

What planet is he living on? Initech Jul 2014 #25

And when JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #46

Yes, we knew this was happening. Maedhros Jul 2014 #64

We can pound our fists all we want Rstrstx Jul 2014 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author sammy27932003 Jul 2014 #42

Bill is assuming all Democrats are liberals, when liberals are actually in the process of being djean111 Jul 2014 #27

Not true! vi5 Jul 2014 #29

Yeah. You are quite correct in that, for sure. djean111 Jul 2014 #30

I wouldn't call them centrist Ash_F Jul 2014 #63

Wow what an idiot. Does he know that there are moderates in the Democratic party too? Rex Jul 2014 #28

Indeed...he was wrong to refer to the hacks as liberal Oilwellian Jul 2014 #56

A dozen heads explode at DU Android3.14 Jul 2014 #41

I'm sorry Bill, but it's the centrists, not the liberals who are backing the NSA spying. (nt) w4rma Jul 2014 #45

kick!!! nt navarth Jul 2014 #51

I/we've been saying that about the Democratic hacks... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2014 #52

CC deniers, dragnet deniers... is there a difference? eom littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #53

Someone should explain to these liberals that the NSA is an extremely right wing organization Ash_F Jul 2014 #54

Too bad he didn't fire Bush loyalist, Clapper when he was elected. It is still sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #60

That and the judges that oversee it are all Reagen/Bushes appointees, save one. /nt Ash_F Jul 2014 #62

DU Rec. SixString Jul 2014 #58

Only the "liberals" he sees. Insiders and corporate-approved Democrats, in other words. Marr Jul 2014 #61