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18. Liberal and Socialist have been tainted by the Rs and their Big Media

Thu Jul 2, 2026, 05:14 PM

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People who care about people might consider operating under a new name. Of course they shouldd choose their own name, but I'd encourage them to choose something that points to their operational goals

Something like, perhaps, party for FAIR-DEALERS

That isn't to say dump the name Democratic Party, but rather use media interactions to press an new association of democrats with the concept of emphasizing policy that produces fair-deals for US citizens.

DEI fits under fair deals. Social Security and Health Care fit under fair-deals. Protecting the poor from the ravages of coporate domination fits under fair-deals.

A little imagination could make the R's jobs a bit more challenging that calling out 60 year old memes from John Birch

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