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orthoclad

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18. The wiki says C is building towards eventual socialism,

Reply to jmowreader (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 30, 2026, 07:47 PM

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i.e., it does not exist until the State withers away. By that definition, there is no socialism today. What people call socialism these days is different.

A Trot might call China "state capitalism", I think, but I really don't have a good grasp on their system. The capitalists have power, but they are not paramount; the Party will have them shot, at need. Or at least imprisoned.

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What is the difference between socialism and communism? [View all] Norrrm Tuesday OP

neither is correct SonOfNebanaube Tuesday #1

Well RandySF Tuesday #2

Communism RandySF Tuesday #3

Socialism and Communism share Marxist roots Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #4

You might call China a Social Democracy, then, orthoclad Tuesday #6

Hardly Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #9

"Social democracy" has to involve actual democracy, so that rules out (current) China muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #10

We have the electoral college. They elect the Party reps. orthoclad Tuesday #13

It's not an open election for political power in China muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #14

The way I think of it orthoclad Tuesday #16

you might. most people (and authoritive view) would not. - - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Tuesday #11

Doesn't communism require constant revolution? mr715 Tuesday #5

Never fails to amaze me how easily Trump manipulates people Prairie Gates Tuesday #7

In Communism, the state owns the wealth. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #8

Well, let's go to the wiki orthoclad Tuesday #12

This is what we were taught in Military Intelligence school jmowreader Tuesday #15

The wiki says C is building towards eventual socialism, orthoclad Tuesday #18

What they are by defintion versus what they become in practice are Bettie Tuesday #17

Alas! The meanings are meaningless. The names are used purely as an emotional trigger. Norrrm Yesterday #19

What's the differene between fascism and capitalism? Emile Yesterday #20