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muriel_volestrangler

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10. "Social democracy" has to involve actual democracy, so that rules out (current) China

Reply to orthoclad (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 30, 2026, 06:07 PM

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It is a centralized state that allows capitalist enterprises if they don't get political power. Once the ruling group has ensured they remain the ruling group, they may order things to provide benefits for the general populace, so it has aspects of socialism, but not democracy.

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What is the difference between socialism and communism? [View all] Norrrm Tuesday OP

neither is correct SonOfNebanaube Tuesday #1

Well RandySF Tuesday #2

Communism RandySF Tuesday #3

Socialism and Communism share Marxist roots Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #4

You might call China a Social Democracy, then, orthoclad Tuesday #6

Hardly Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #9

"Social democracy" has to involve actual democracy, so that rules out (current) China muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #10

We have the electoral college. They elect the Party reps. orthoclad Tuesday #13

It's not an open election for political power in China muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #14

The way I think of it orthoclad Tuesday #16

you might. most people (and authoritive view) would not. - - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Tuesday #11

Doesn't communism require constant revolution? mr715 Tuesday #5

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In Communism, the state owns the wealth. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #8

Well, let's go to the wiki orthoclad Tuesday #12

This is what we were taught in Military Intelligence school jmowreader Tuesday #15

The wiki says C is building towards eventual socialism, orthoclad Tuesday #18

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Alas! The meanings are meaningless. The names are used purely as an emotional trigger. Norrrm Yesterday #19

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