General Discussion

JBTaurus83

(1,857 posts)

101. What a piece of shit document

Sat Jun 27, 2026, 10:36 AM

4 hrs ago

They sound like Republicans. NO I am not proud of this country and I will not be brow beat into saying I am.

If you want to talk fiscal discipline talk taxation, loopholes and how continuing to ignore the impending environmental disaster will bankrupt this country.

The people in the middle don’t care about “capitalism, socialism, fascism” etc. most of these low info voters can’t even define them. They just want some type of result.

I’d really love to know if the people in their districts were clamoring for them to make this inane and purposely vague statement of platitudes.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

duckworth969

123 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

13 centrist Democrats sign "Promise to America" - capitalism, fiscal discipline, strong borders and pride in US [View all] Nanjeanne Yesterday OP

My Dog.... NewHendoLib Yesterday #1

We are definitetly going to need to take the house by more than 13. LuvLoogie Yesterday #2

We definitely have a centrist problem. Emile 21 hrs ago #41

Without centrists Boo1 21 hrs ago #44

We have a centrist problem!! Emile 21 hrs ago #45

Seriously. What a bunch of drivel from these CivicGrief 19 hrs ago #55

You get to define what Boo1 18 hrs ago #67

See post 36 Emile 18 hrs ago #71

we know what it ISN'T Skittles 15 hrs ago #95

Yes Cirsium 1 hr ago #117

Actually you don't Boo1 17 min ago #122

Not to mention centrists are terrible negotiators. They only ask GPV 3 hrs ago #107

I agree PatSeg 3 hrs ago #108

And "Centrists" are just Bettie 19 hrs ago #58

Bullshit Boo1 18 hrs ago #69

Did you read it? Cirsium 1 hr ago #118

Yes Boo1 16 min ago #123

I strongly disagree LetMyPeopleVote 3 hrs ago #111

Moderates is a better description demosincebirth 3 hrs ago #109

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #3

"Contract on America" orthoclad Yesterday #5

Right? AStern 23 hrs ago #16

This "promise" is an agreement to orthoclad 23 hrs ago #19

Exactly Blue Full Moon 17 hrs ago #76

Shades of Newt Gingrich orthoclad 17 hrs ago #77

I'm good with most of that stuff. What are they against? mymomwasright Yesterday #4

Y'know, all those things that "socialist" countries have. orthoclad Yesterday #6

It's bad enough that the R's are trying to divide us Deuxcents Yesterday #7

They seem to believe that everything happening today is fine and is mainstream and normal Quiet Em Yesterday #8

They don't believe everything is fine. yardwork Yesterday #10

They aren't offering anything Quiet Em Yesterday #11

I agree mvd 4 hrs ago #100

Tom Suozzi is in NY Quiet Em Yesterday #13

Then they should have some respect for the Dems who won in their districts. Why put out this Nanjeanne 23 hrs ago #25

What? I don't understand what you're saying. yardwork 20 hrs ago #49

How about you just read the free link to the Wash Post or maybe even Suozzi's own statement Nanjeanne 16 hrs ago #83

Are you suggesting that people should vote against them? yardwork 16 hrs ago #84

What are you talking about? Where did I say that? Voters get to choose. Im flummoxed. Nanjeanne 16 hrs ago #86

North Carolina's primaries are over. yardwork 15 hrs ago #87

My OP made no comment at all. I posted a Wash Post article and the actual Promise To America. Nanjeanne 15 hrs ago #88

These are your exact words in this thread: yardwork 15 hrs ago #89

Read my lips. I NEVER SUGGESTED ANYTHING ABOUT HOW SOMEONE SHOULD VOTE. Nanjeanne 15 hrs ago #91

Bashing Democratic candidates depresses the vote for them. yardwork 15 hrs ago #92

All of us at DU want to take back the House and we want all of our Democratic nominees to win Quiet Em 15 hrs ago #94

Very red district here Cirsium 51 min ago #120

I'm not surprised to see the two from North Carolina. yardwork Yesterday #9

I am mixed on this issue. Matthew28 Yesterday #12

My goal is to get a Democratic majority in Congress. yardwork 23 hrs ago #18

But they are attacking other Democrats in a not so subtle way. CivicGrief 19 hrs ago #59

How are they attacking other Democrats? yardwork 19 hrs ago #60

They said it was. Read the articles. Nanjeanne 19 hrs ago #65

We're all aware how civics works. CivicGrief 15 hrs ago #90

"Yes, but who wants a majority if we must sacrifice being pure to get there?" ... or something 😂🤣🙄 QueerDuck 3 hrs ago #110

It seems laughable but here we are. yardwork 3 hrs ago #112

And are the progressives who have won their primaries against "strong" borders and against some level Nanjeanne 23 hrs ago #23

We aren't in a big tent, I guess. aocommunalpunch 23 hrs ago #26

I personally think the Dems MustLoveBeagles 22 hrs ago #33

Which 'socialist' policies do they disagree with? NeoTrajan 23 hrs ago #14

I suspect they're appeasing their corporate donors LearnedHand 22 hrs ago #30

Here is my first stab at a list. yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #53

They probably disagree with the DSA's call to defund the police, abolish prisons, and release all convicts. lapucelle 2 hrs ago #114

Post removed Post removed 23 hrs ago #15

Me too politics doesn't work MustLoveBeagles 22 hrs ago #34

they all need to be primaried hookaleft 23 hrs ago #17

Many of them should be on the top of the primary list for 2028 Renew Deal 23 hrs ago #20

Yeah, Europe is so extreme. However, I agree that "Socialist" is a loser in the .... ColoringFool 23 hrs ago #21

Socialism is the bogeyman pushed by the pukes LearnedHand 22 hrs ago #31

And they still will be labeled as Socialists from the right. CivicGrief 19 hrs ago #57

If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, Emile 23 hrs ago #22

What a completely pointless clump of words. Oneironaut 23 hrs ago #24

Post removed Post removed 22 hrs ago #27

So corruption and neoliberalism are totally okay LearnedHand 22 hrs ago #28

First of all Karma13612 22 hrs ago #29

They aren't trying to put forth any new ideas. They merely want to imply that these damn progressive Nanjeanne 22 hrs ago #36

What this usually means is Bettie 19 hrs ago #63

You got it. Nanjeanne 19 hrs ago #64

They're really Eisenhower Republicans. The GOP doesn't want them. haele 22 hrs ago #32

Eisenhower doesn't want them either. Nanjeanne 22 hrs ago #37

Not one F***ng word in the Promise to America about (for profit) HMO HealthCare. Ars Longa 22 hrs ago #35

That would impact the bottom line of Bettie 18 hrs ago #72

13 out of 200? SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #38

Rule: If even one Democrat can be used to suppress support for the whole party, we're off to the races. betsuni 15 hrs ago #93

What's the point of this.... Etherealoc1 22 hrs ago #39

More Fettermans. Emile 21 hrs ago #40

Democratic Socialism is now mainstream AZProgressive 21 hrs ago #42

Oh alright ...OK, from now on.... you get TWO bread crusts a day-- instead of ONE. Ars Longa 21 hrs ago #43

Post removed Post removed 21 hrs ago #46

My thoughts too! Emile 20 hrs ago #47

Every one of these candidates is the Democratic candidate in their district. yardwork 19 hrs ago #61

This is likely going to be a theme durablend 20 hrs ago #48

I'm for socialism, taxing the billionaires into nonexistence, labor's freedom of movement equals capital's Prairie Gates 20 hrs ago #50

What's wrong with socialism? Violet_Crumble 20 hrs ago #51

As MLK Jr said Nanjeanne 4 hrs ago #103

"We disagree with socialists," Suozzi said". yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #52

Democratic Socialists aren't socialists. They are the real centrists. pat_k 19 hrs ago #54

Please corect tthe headline. These people are not at the "center" of anything. Bluetus 19 hrs ago #56

It was the Wash Post description. Nanjeanne 18 hrs ago #73

I suggest putting it in quotes then, because it is an opinion of theirs, certainly not a fact. Bluetus 17 hrs ago #75

Got any details to go with that rhetoric? Raven123 19 hrs ago #62

Oh goodie. mr715 18 hrs ago #66

Not just tepid dishwater - sour sink water that's been sitting there for three days with grease and soap in it . . . hatrack 18 hrs ago #68

PTA is Vague Classic "No Labels" stuff : Zero mention of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid-- Ars Longa 18 hrs ago #70

"Fiscal discipline?" ... TAX THE RICH, and ... Martin Eden 17 hrs ago #74

A good start for the creation of a new Republican Deminpenn 17 hrs ago #78

The question is what are we going to do make difference in peoples lives. everyonematters 17 hrs ago #79

I'm glad my rep didn't sign that. 50 Shades Of Blue 17 hrs ago #80

Lol, gab13by13 16 hrs ago #81

I was almost convinced to vote for candidate Marlene Galn-Woods in Arizona but her decision to sign on to this in2herbs 16 hrs ago #82

Post removed Post removed 16 hrs ago #85

Aw, hell... duckworth969 14 hrs ago #96

Flipping a red district that Donald Trump won is an actual Nixie 13 hrs ago #97

I'm proud to say that we flipped two Nassau county districts blue in 2024, lapucelle 4 hrs ago #98

President Harry S Truman knew the type and warned us. Kid Berwyn 4 hrs ago #99

What a piece of shit document JBTaurus83 4 hrs ago #101

Al politics is local. - Tip O'Neill mzmolly 4 hrs ago #102

Putting lipstick on capitalism with colonial era values bucolic_frolic 4 hrs ago #104

You can NOT have "fair" capialism without some johnnyfins 3 hrs ago #105

Exactly JBTaurus83 2 hrs ago #113

The "Carville Fetterman axis" trying to look relevant n/t Munu 3 hrs ago #106

James Carville supported Conor Lamb in 2022. N/T lapucelle 2 hrs ago #115

Even a broken clock.... JBTaurus83 1 hr ago #116

So the "Carville-Fetterman axis" doesn't actually exist lapucelle 1 hr ago #119

I wasn't the one that posted that JBTaurus83 37 min ago #121