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Bluetus

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82. By whom? That's the question.

Fri Jun 26, 2026, 05:51 PM

20 hrs ago

By the fascists and billionaires who have contempt for just about every bit of our Constitution? Yes, for sure.

But Eisenhower would probably win in 2028 in a landslide if he were here because people understood him and trusted him to govern fairly and wisely.

We simply have not been given many choices like Eisenhower since then.

These modern(ish) Presidents all were in the middle of live action serving in the military:

* Harry S. Truman
* Dwight D. Eisenhower
* John F. Kennedy
* Lyndon B. Johnson
* Richard Nixon
* Gerald Ford
* George H.W. Bush

None since then, although Bob Dole, John Kerry and Jon McCain ran for President.

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Is there a reason Mamdani ran a candidate against Dan Goldman in NY? [View all] dlk Yesterday OP

Mamdani backed candidate Brad Lander. Emile Yesterday #1

That wasn't the question. But thanks. dem4decades Yesterday #5

Your question doesn't make sense Mysterian Yesterday #16

It wasn't my question, the OP asked, rather awkwardly, why Mandami backed a candidate against Goldman. dem4decades 22 hrs ago #81

That is literally the answer obamanut2012 Yesterday #36

It was the answer, though tirebiter Yesterday #70

Goldman lost 66%-33% - a wipe out Prairie Gates Yesterday #2

Specifically SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #12

Israel obamanut2012 Yesterday #39

Mamdani orchestrated this whole thing? WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #3

Mamdani backed Progressive candidates that were like himself politically Takket Yesterday #4

Plus it was 3 districts SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #11

It's not a big deal by itself EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #20

Not really SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #22

Over 50% in a 3-way race... mr715 Yesterday #54

Against SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #59

A disgraced former governor that had the tacit endorsement mr715 Yesterday #60

Not in the general election. SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #63

French disinformation watchdog claims there was a disinfo campaign in NYC election. AloeVera Yesterday #66

Mamdani was facing another Democrat that was running as an Independent AZProgressive 23 hrs ago #74

He was facing a disgraced former Governor SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #75

I agree - the "one great man" effect is way overdone Geechie Yesterday #61

What are you missing? OhioBack2Blue Yesterday #6

Dan Goldman was/is a great congressman DFW Yesterday #7

Comparing Democratic voters to irrational robots? Mysterian Yesterday #17

The candidates sometimes DFW Yesterday #25

Yeah, it sucks when republicans get elected but that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed, Mysterian Yesterday #47

Wait... not objecting to Lander equals "obvious" support for Fetterman? Scrivener7 Yesterday #57

So by that rational, trump is "%ucking great" too? The people did elect him krawhitham 22 hrs ago #80

The topic is Democratic politicians Mysterian 18 hrs ago #85

Maybe he was inspired by Brad Landers platform. Emile Yesterday #8

The only issue against Goldman was that SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #9

Also, as I understand it, Goldman moonscape Yesterday #21

Good point! SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #23

I can tell you from long conversations thomski64 Yesterday #26

Because purity tests SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #28

Not supporting the criminal Bibi is a purity CivicGrief Yesterday #33

Not voting for a Democratic candidate SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #34

Uh, we are talking about a Democratic primary CivicGrief Yesterday #38

OK SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #42

Did Goldman support Netanyahu specifically Mossfern 2 hrs ago #93

You already said this. CivicGrief Yesterday #31

So? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #32

This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 Yesterday #37

Israel -- you continually spell it wrong obamanut2012 Yesterday #41

My apologies SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #50

Isreal Is Not Real. Israel, on the other hand, Is a real nation. MineralMan Yesterday #44

Thanks SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #46

I don't know. What do you think? n/t Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #10

Goldman is very good. Fear we will lose his expertise. cachukis Yesterday #13

Payback to Lander from Mamdani is where the story begins BeyondGeography Yesterday #14

Isn't this fairly straightforward? EarlG Yesterday #15

I agree with that assessment. DFW Yesterday #27

I don't think so. CivicGrief Yesterday #35

Is there a reason Platner ran against Mills displacedvermoter Yesterday #18

Mamdani dint "run" any candidates Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #19

De rec on multiple fronts: Celerity Yesterday #24

Maybe just maybe jmsipes Yesterday #29

A large faction of the party just can't seem to comprehend the idea that "anti-Trump and nothing else" just might not Midwestern Democrat Yesterday #48

I doubt Mandani "ran" Lander Cosmocat Yesterday #30

They ran as allies even in the primary SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #40

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #45

Never said I did. SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #49

OK, but you appear to be bitter CivicGrief Yesterday #51

Not at all SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #52

Yes. The primary is over. CivicGrief Yesterday #53

We All KNow "the primary" is over. Cha 19 hrs ago #84

? Nittersing Yesterday #56

No, he doesn't "appear to be bitter".. nt Cha 19 hrs ago #83

What candidate did Mamdani run against Dan Goldman? obamanut2012 Yesterday #43

If what Goldman was doing was what the people wanted, he would have won the primary sboatcar Yesterday #55

Oh dear dlk! I thought this was a reasonable question Nittersing Yesterday #58

Appreciate your kind words dlk 23 hrs ago #71

What is "left"? Bluetus Yesterday #62

2 of the 3 had wide margins. mr715 Yesterday #65

Fair enough, but even a candidate that wins 51-49 cannot be "left" Bluetus Yesterday #67

The "center" has been moving right for decades dlk 23 hrs ago #72

By whom? That's the question. Bluetus 20 hrs ago #82

He didnt run anybody. SSJVegeta Yesterday #64

Because Democrats range in politics within a big, diverse tent, and haele Yesterday #68

Probably this: W_HAMILTON Yesterday #69

Brad Lander cross endorsed Mamdani when Mamdani ran for mayor which helped him defeat Cuomo AZProgressive 23 hrs ago #73

Anyone running can be challenged. The job does not belong to anyone. Mamdani backed a candidate didn't run a Pisces 22 hrs ago #76

Because Lander dropped out of the mayoral race and endorsed Zohran. RandySF 22 hrs ago #77

Not dropped out. mr715 22 hrs ago #79

Message auto-removed Name removed 22 hrs ago #78

Did HE run a candidate or did a candidate decide to run and got his endorsement? BlueTsunami2018 16 hrs ago #86

How is splitting hairs helpful? dlk 3 hrs ago #87

Its not "splitting hairs". Your subject line is a false narrative. FascismIsDeath 3 hrs ago #89

Mayor Mamdani does not run one candidate against another candidate. The mayor endorses Autumn 3 hrs ago #88

I did not miss that at all dlk 3 hrs ago #90

Because you are saying ran a candidate obamanut2012 2 hrs ago #91

You missed the fact that Mayor Mamdani does not "run" one candidate against another. He has Autumn 2 hrs ago #92