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pat_k

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17. I wouldn't want to ostracize. But a lesson in history wouldn't go amiss.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:44 PM
21 hrs ago

I don't see how understanding that they are firmly at the center of our politics, and continuing a pragmatic American tradition that has been a throughline across our history, would make the positions any less attractive.

Heather Cox Richardson does a good job of debunking Prof G as she responds to his question (paraphrase: Do Americans tend to swing hard left in this type of situation?) at 28:46

To paraphrase: when you look at where the Democrats are, from the so-called moderate to progressive, they are still extraordinarily centrist... to the right of Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was a Republican, of course -- his upper tax bracket of 91 or 92 percent, his call for universal health care. All things which, coming out of WWII were absolutely centrist positions. Normally, what we do in reaction to this kind of concentration of wealth.... (listen for more good stuff and seeds of hope)


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Puke propaganda Ponietz Yesterday #1
The overton window has moved far right Flatrat Yesterday #2
Not lazy, complicit robbob 22 hrs ago #13
Well, when you're getting paid a few million a year to toe the line... progressoid 14 hrs ago #34
100% Blue Full Moon Yesterday #3
Anything that returns us to FDR and the New Deal is all I want. no_hypocrisy 23 hrs ago #4
Minus the racism systemically included in some of the New Deal, racist policies designed to ensure the support of Celerity 22 hrs ago #9
Another evil compromise and continuation of the original sin. pat_k 22 hrs ago #11
Or even the Eisenhower years pat_k 22 hrs ago #10
Bet me to it! paleotn 21 hrs ago #20
And the more of us who challenge the labels as a matter of course,... pat_k 20 hrs ago #27
Todays definition of "RINO" is simply disagree with trump. Callie1979 1 hr ago #37
The corporate tax rate wasnt even CLOSE to 90% under Ike. Callie1979 1 hr ago #36
Excellent graphic! liberalla 11 min ago #43
Recommended. H2O Man 23 hrs ago #5
The tyranny of the minority peggysue2 23 hrs ago #6
You aint done nothin' if you aint been called a red Warpy 23 hrs ago #7
92% are worried about corruption in Government KS Toronado 22 hrs ago #8
Absolutely!!!! pat_k 22 hrs ago #12
The corruption is at the core. yellow dahlia 16 hrs ago #32
A lot of younger voters are embracing the term "leftist" TheProle 22 hrs ago #14
I wouldn't want to ostracize. But a lesson in history wouldn't go amiss. pat_k 21 hrs ago #17
Well in fairness, there's some air between a history lesson and "calling bullshit" TheProle 21 hrs ago #21
To me, factual context that demonstrates the label is not valid... pat_k 20 hrs ago #26
Exactly. When people win elections, especially by substantial margins Bluetus 22 hrs ago #15
Biden hibbing 22 hrs ago #16
I wonder, BidenRocks 21 hrs ago #18
There's a great discussion of what history tells us about how this could play out at 28:46 in the following pat_k 21 hrs ago #19
Well, when we see some of those candidates positions, they are fodder for the RW Callie1979 1 hr ago #38
When you are situated on the far-right, MOST policy looks like it's to the Left of you 31j20b3 21 hrs ago #22
Putting the radical right fascist corporatism of the current Republican pat_k 17 hrs ago #31
Thanks for the HCR clip. yellow dahlia 16 hrs ago #33
Q. And who controls the narrative? BaronChocula 21 hrs ago #23
Letters to editors. Lots of letters to editors. pat_k 21 hrs ago #24
Concise and precise Gum Logger 20 hrs ago #25
We need parity in human services with the advanced democratic nations delisen 20 hrs ago #28
There is no "far left" in America... BH liberal 19 hrs ago #29
The entire explainer from Heather Cox Richardson makes this crystal clear. pat_k 18 hrs ago #30
I saw the long version of that video by HCR last night. applegrove 10 hrs ago #35
That's why we have so many billionaires and trillionaires, I suppose... kentuck 1 hr ago #39
Well the GOP caters to the filthy-rich Farmer-Rick 37 min ago #40
Obviously, if Centrist Democrats would espouse these "Centrist" positions, they would attract more votes. ihaveaquestion 25 min ago #41
Love HCR for making sense and telling the truth clearly! liberalla 13 min ago #42
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