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Bluetus

(3,312 posts)
62. What is "left"?
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 11:30 AM
16 hrs ago

I do appreciate the OP's question. I have viewed Goldman favorably. I believe he is competent, ethical, moral and well-intentioned. My answer to the question is that we are at a moment of existential crisis in this country and we need to replace people who are simply competent and decent with people who will fight like hell to save our country. Goldman gave some good speeches, but he seemed to fit right into the status quo crowd that has come to dominate the old guard of NY politics.

The candidates that Mamdani endorsed all won by HUGE margins. And I would point out that the old guard of New York lost many seats in 2024, So that begs the question of what it means to be "left" or "center".

"Left" of what? The old guard (with help from Republicans and other RW organizations that we aren't allowed to name here) characterized Mamdani and all his associates as "socialists", "communists", and "leftsts"

But if they are so "left of center", how do they win in landslides of 60-30? How does a "radically left of center" candidate like Platner win 70-20? By definition, the candidate that gets 60% or even 70% is obviously directly in the center of what the public is feeling, It is the losers who are out of line, far away from the center.

We are at a moment in our history when the people are outraged. They are angry about the concentration of wealth and power. They are angry about the massive criminality that some Democrats don't seem to want to even fight. They are angry about AI, inflation, data centers, the cost of housing, day care, health care, the Iran war, the Venezuenlan atrocities, Greeenland and the loss of our Constitutional form of government, All these things. Candidates that brush these things off deserve to lose.

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Mamdani backed candidate Brad Lander. Emile 20 hrs ago #1
That wasn't the question. But thanks. dem4decades 20 hrs ago #5
Your question doesn't make sense Mysterian 19 hrs ago #16
It wasn't my question, the OP asked, rather awkwardly, why Mandami backed a candidate against Goldman. dem4decades 12 hrs ago #81
That is literally the answer obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #36
It was the answer, though tirebiter 15 hrs ago #70
Goldman lost 66%-33% - a wipe out Prairie Gates 20 hrs ago #2
Specifically SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #12
Israel obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #39
Mamdani orchestrated this whole thing? WhiskeyGrinder 20 hrs ago #3
Mamdani backed Progressive candidates that were like himself politically Takket 20 hrs ago #4
Plus it was 3 districts SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #11
It's not a big deal by itself EdmondDantes_ 18 hrs ago #20
Not really SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #22
Over 50% in a 3-way race... mr715 17 hrs ago #54
Against SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #59
A disgraced former governor that had the tacit endorsement mr715 17 hrs ago #60
Not in the general election. SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #63
French disinformation watchdog claims there was a disinfo campaign in NYC election. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #66
Mamdani was facing another Democrat that was running as an Independent AZProgressive 12 hrs ago #74
He was facing a disgraced former Governor SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #75
I agree - the "one great man" effect is way overdone Geechie 17 hrs ago #61
What are you missing? OhioBack2Blue 20 hrs ago #6
Dan Goldman was/is a great congressman DFW 20 hrs ago #7
Comparing Democratic voters to irrational robots? Mysterian 19 hrs ago #17
The candidates sometimes DFW 18 hrs ago #25
Yeah, it sucks when republicans get elected but that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed, Mysterian 17 hrs ago #47
Wait... not objecting to Lander equals "obvious" support for Fetterman? Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #57
So by that rational, trump is "%ucking great" too? The people did elect him krawhitham 12 hrs ago #80
The topic is Democratic politicians Mysterian 8 hrs ago #85
Maybe he was inspired by Brad Landers platform. Emile 20 hrs ago #8
The only issue against Goldman was that SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #9
Also, as I understand it, Goldman moonscape 18 hrs ago #21
Good point! SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #23
I can tell you from long conversations thomski64 18 hrs ago #26
Because purity tests SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #28
Not supporting the criminal Bibi is a purity CivicGrief 17 hrs ago #33
Not voting for a Democratic candidate SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #34
Uh, we are talking about a Democratic primary CivicGrief 17 hrs ago #38
OK SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #42
You already said this. CivicGrief 17 hrs ago #31
So? SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #32
This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #37
Israel -- you continually spell it wrong obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #41
My apologies SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #50
Isreal Is Not Real. Israel, on the other hand, Is a real nation. MineralMan 17 hrs ago #44
Thanks SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #46
I don't know. What do you think? n/t Just_Vote_Dem 20 hrs ago #10
Goldman is very good. Fear we will lose his expertise. cachukis 20 hrs ago #13
Payback to Lander from Mamdani is where the story begins BeyondGeography 19 hrs ago #14
Isn't this fairly straightforward? EarlG 19 hrs ago #15
I agree with that assessment. DFW 18 hrs ago #27
I don't think so. CivicGrief 17 hrs ago #35
Is there a reason Platner ran against Mills displacedvermoter 19 hrs ago #18
Mamdani dint "run" any candidates Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #19
De rec on multiple fronts: Celerity 18 hrs ago #24
Maybe just maybe jmsipes 18 hrs ago #29
A large faction of the party just can't seem to comprehend the idea that "anti-Trump and nothing else" just might not Midwestern Democrat 17 hrs ago #48
I doubt Mandani "ran" Lander Cosmocat 18 hrs ago #30
They ran as allies even in the primary SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #40
Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #45
Never said I did. SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #49
OK, but you appear to be bitter CivicGrief 17 hrs ago #51
Not at all SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #52
Yes. The primary is over. CivicGrief 17 hrs ago #53
We All KNow "the primary" is over. Cha 9 hrs ago #84
? Nittersing 17 hrs ago #56
No, he doesn't "appear to be bitter".. nt Cha 9 hrs ago #83
What candidate did Mamdani run against Dan Goldman? obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #43
If what Goldman was doing was what the people wanted, he would have won the primary sboatcar 17 hrs ago #55
Oh dear dlk! I thought this was a reasonable question Nittersing 17 hrs ago #58
Appreciate your kind words dlk 12 hrs ago #71
What is "left"? Bluetus 16 hrs ago #62
2 of the 3 had wide margins. mr715 16 hrs ago #65
Fair enough, but even a candidate that wins 51-49 cannot be "left" Bluetus 16 hrs ago #67
The "center" has been moving right for decades dlk 12 hrs ago #72
By whom? That's the question. Bluetus 10 hrs ago #82
He didnt run anybody. SSJVegeta 16 hrs ago #64
Because Democrats range in politics within a big, diverse tent, and haele 16 hrs ago #68
Probably this: W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #69
Brad Lander cross endorsed Mamdani when Mamdani ran for mayor which helped him defeat Cuomo AZProgressive 12 hrs ago #73
Anyone running can be challenged. The job does not belong to anyone. Mamdani backed a candidate didn't run a Pisces 12 hrs ago #76
Because Lander dropped out of the mayoral race and endorsed Zohran. RandySF 12 hrs ago #77
Not dropped out. mr715 12 hrs ago #79
Message auto-removed Name removed 12 hrs ago #78
Did HE run a candidate or did a candidate decide to run and got his endorsement? BlueTsunami2018 6 hrs ago #86
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