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Geechie

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61. I agree - the "one great man" effect is way overdone

Fri Jun 26, 2026, 11:18 AM

18 hrs ago

But we still talk about TR as synonymous with the earlier Progressive movement, as if he singlehandedly orchestrated the whole thing.

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Is there a reason Mamdani ran a candidate against Dan Goldman in NY? [View all] dlk 21 hrs ago OP

Mamdani backed candidate Brad Lander. Emile 21 hrs ago #1

That wasn't the question. But thanks. dem4decades 21 hrs ago #5

Your question doesn't make sense Mysterian 20 hrs ago #16

It wasn't my question, the OP asked, rather awkwardly, why Mandami backed a candidate against Goldman. dem4decades 12 hrs ago #81

That is literally the answer obamanut2012 18 hrs ago #36

It was the answer, though tirebiter 16 hrs ago #70

Goldman lost 66%-33% - a wipe out Prairie Gates 21 hrs ago #2

Specifically SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #12

Israel obamanut2012 18 hrs ago #39

Mamdani orchestrated this whole thing? WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #3

Mamdani backed Progressive candidates that were like himself politically Takket 21 hrs ago #4

Plus it was 3 districts SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #11

It's not a big deal by itself EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #20

Not really SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #22

Over 50% in a 3-way race... mr715 18 hrs ago #54

Against SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #59

A disgraced former governor that had the tacit endorsement mr715 18 hrs ago #60

Not in the general election. SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #63

French disinformation watchdog claims there was a disinfo campaign in NYC election. AloeVera 17 hrs ago #66

Mamdani was facing another Democrat that was running as an Independent AZProgressive 13 hrs ago #74

He was facing a disgraced former Governor SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #75

I agree - the "one great man" effect is way overdone Geechie 18 hrs ago #61

What are you missing? OhioBack2Blue 21 hrs ago #6

Dan Goldman was/is a great congressman DFW 21 hrs ago #7

Comparing Democratic voters to irrational robots? Mysterian 20 hrs ago #17

The candidates sometimes DFW 19 hrs ago #25

Yeah, it sucks when republicans get elected but that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed, Mysterian 18 hrs ago #47

Wait... not objecting to Lander equals "obvious" support for Fetterman? Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #57

So by that rational, trump is "%ucking great" too? The people did elect him krawhitham 12 hrs ago #80

The topic is Democratic politicians Mysterian 9 hrs ago #85

Maybe he was inspired by Brad Landers platform. Emile 21 hrs ago #8

The only issue against Goldman was that SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #9

Also, as I understand it, Goldman moonscape 19 hrs ago #21

Good point! SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #23

I can tell you from long conversations thomski64 19 hrs ago #26

Because purity tests SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #28

Not supporting the criminal Bibi is a purity CivicGrief 18 hrs ago #33

Not voting for a Democratic candidate SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #34

Uh, we are talking about a Democratic primary CivicGrief 18 hrs ago #38

OK SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #42

You already said this. CivicGrief 18 hrs ago #31

So? SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #32

This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 18 hrs ago #37

Israel -- you continually spell it wrong obamanut2012 18 hrs ago #41

My apologies SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #50

Isreal Is Not Real. Israel, on the other hand, Is a real nation. MineralMan 18 hrs ago #44

Thanks SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #46

I don't know. What do you think? n/t Just_Vote_Dem 21 hrs ago #10

Goldman is very good. Fear we will lose his expertise. cachukis 20 hrs ago #13

Payback to Lander from Mamdani is where the story begins BeyondGeography 20 hrs ago #14

Isn't this fairly straightforward? EarlG 20 hrs ago #15

I agree with that assessment. DFW 19 hrs ago #27

I don't think so. CivicGrief 18 hrs ago #35

Is there a reason Platner ran against Mills displacedvermoter 20 hrs ago #18

Mamdani dint "run" any candidates Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #19

De rec on multiple fronts: Celerity 19 hrs ago #24

Maybe just maybe jmsipes 18 hrs ago #29

A large faction of the party just can't seem to comprehend the idea that "anti-Trump and nothing else" just might not Midwestern Democrat 18 hrs ago #48

I doubt Mandani "ran" Lander Cosmocat 18 hrs ago #30

They ran as allies even in the primary SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #40

Post removed Post removed 18 hrs ago #45

Never said I did. SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #49

OK, but you appear to be bitter CivicGrief 18 hrs ago #51

Not at all SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #52

Yes. The primary is over. CivicGrief 18 hrs ago #53

We All KNow "the primary" is over. Cha 10 hrs ago #84

? Nittersing 18 hrs ago #56

No, he doesn't "appear to be bitter".. nt Cha 10 hrs ago #83

What candidate did Mamdani run against Dan Goldman? obamanut2012 18 hrs ago #43

If what Goldman was doing was what the people wanted, he would have won the primary sboatcar 18 hrs ago #55

Oh dear dlk! I thought this was a reasonable question Nittersing 18 hrs ago #58

Appreciate your kind words dlk 13 hrs ago #71

What is "left"? Bluetus 17 hrs ago #62

2 of the 3 had wide margins. mr715 17 hrs ago #65

Fair enough, but even a candidate that wins 51-49 cannot be "left" Bluetus 17 hrs ago #67

The "center" has been moving right for decades dlk 13 hrs ago #72

By whom? That's the question. Bluetus 11 hrs ago #82

He didnt run anybody. SSJVegeta 17 hrs ago #64

Because Democrats range in politics within a big, diverse tent, and haele 17 hrs ago #68

Probably this: W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #69

Brad Lander cross endorsed Mamdani when Mamdani ran for mayor which helped him defeat Cuomo AZProgressive 13 hrs ago #73

Anyone running can be challenged. The job does not belong to anyone. Mamdani backed a candidate didn't run a Pisces 13 hrs ago #76

Because Lander dropped out of the mayoral race and endorsed Zohran. RandySF 13 hrs ago #77

Not dropped out. mr715 13 hrs ago #79

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Did HE run a candidate or did a candidate decide to run and got his endorsement? BlueTsunami2018 7 hrs ago #86