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RockRaven

(20,074 posts)
5. You interlocutor is, for lack of a better word, a liar.
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 10:34 PM
Jun 17

The Wikipedia article is readily accessible to them, easy to understand, and sufficiently comprehensive that there is not much excuse for peddling such misinformation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal

some selected excerpts, emphasis mine:


The U.S. certified in April 2017 and in July 2017 that Iran was complying with the deal.[322][323] On 13 October 2017, President Trump announced that he would not make the certification required under the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act, accusing Iran of violating the spirit of the deal and calling on Congress and international partners to "address the deal's many serious flaws", though he stopped short of terminating the agreement.[324][325]
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Rouhani,[327] Theresa May, Emmanuel Macron, Angela Merkel, and European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said the agreement was working well and that no one country could break it, reconfirming support for the deal. Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov confirmed that Iran was in compliance.[327]

In 2018, IAEA inspectors spent an aggregate of 3,000 calendar [person-]days in Iran, installing seals and collecting surveillance camera photos, measurement data, and documents for further analysis. In March 2018, IAEA Director Yukiya Amano said that the organization had verified that Iran was implementing its nuclear-related commitments.[328] On April 30, the U.S. and Israel said that Iran had not disclosed a past covert nuclear weapons program to the IAEA, as required.[329][330]
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On 8 May 2018, the U.S. officially withdrew from the JCPOA after Trump signed a Presidential Memorandum ordering reinstatement of sanctions.[333][334][335][336] The IAEA continued to certify Iranian compliance.[337] Other signatories said they would comply with the deal even absent the U.S.[338]

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They are going to explain everything regarding Miami Blue Jun 17 #1
Thank you. Baitball Blogger Jun 17 #4
Thanks for the heads-up. Talitha Jun 17 #27
Iran was violating the agreement by limiting and preventing Melon Jun 17 #2
Note the date. Aug 2017. By 2018, before US withdrawal, the IAEA was in country, inspecting, and certified compliance. RockRaven Jun 17 #6
Post removed Post removed Jun 17 #7
Yes there is no rewriting history. At the time Trump pulled the US out, every other party to the agreement RockRaven Jun 17 #12
You are placing an ad hoc rescue that at a certain short Melon Jun 17 #15
This is from the United Nations. Melon Jun 17 #17
So, any explanation for why, when I go the link you provided AZJonnie Jun 18 #33
But, this happened during Trump's term. Baitball Blogger Jun 17 #8
You are incorrect, per your own article. AloeVera Jun 17 #9
In every instance, Trump has been a bull in a china shop. Baitball Blogger Jun 17 #22
This is incorrect. They were not violating the agreement. tman Jun 17 #16
"This is true" dpibel Jun 17 #30
From the article you linked to: EarlG Jun 17 #31
Try this post Johnny2X2X Jun 17 #3
You interlocutor is, for lack of a better word, a liar. RockRaven Jun 17 #5
You realize Wikipedia is written by...just anyone. Melon Jun 17 #11
You realize those numbers are citations and you can check whether they say what the article says? RockRaven Jun 17 #14
There's zero science behind it. Melon Jun 17 #18
Well, you got this bit right AZJonnie Jun 18 #34
Seems your post was indeed prescient AZJonnie Jun 18 #35
Inspectors from the atomic energy agency were granted continuous lostincalifornia Jun 17 #10
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Melon Jun 17 #13
They were fully compliant while the JCPOA was active. tman Jun 17 #20
See below. Melon Jun 17 #21
That's from 12 June 2025, so my point still stands. tman Jun 17 #25
What is also conveniently omitted is that inspectors were refused entry after lostincalifornia Jun 17 #28
It was a starting point, and throwing that agreement out instead of using it lostincalifornia Jun 17 #23
What did they expect when trump unilaterally pulled out of the agreement? lostincalifornia Jun 17 #26
This is not true per the atomic energy agency and the UN.... Melon Jun 17 #19
You are citing a judgment from 2025 about activity from 2019 and onward RockRaven Jun 17 #24
Exactly. Trump unilaterally tore up that agreement in 2017. Why would some lostincalifornia Jun 17 #29
knr ... bookmarked ... cliffside Jun 18 #32
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