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betsuni

(29,402 posts)
41. This is what an authentically "flawed candidate" is.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:44 PM
Jun 4

Flawed candidate, flawed candidate, flawed candidate. I feel like repeating the words repeated over and over and over. Also, "baggage."

But guess who gets the benefit of the doubt! No mention of holding feet to the fire or earning one's vote or holding noses.

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Related thread from earlier pat_k Jun 4 #1
Being physically abusive and blocking women in rooms isn't something to just ignore like he belches at the dinner table EdmondDantes_ Jun 4 #4
Dear Goddess, I just read the entire article! Still shaking. niyad Jun 4 #10
You're OK with this, then? mcar Jun 4 #12
Here's Nicolle Wallace's report: Rhiannon12866 Jun 4 #15
Maine has ranked voting, including in this primary RockCreek Jun 4 #2
It sounds to me that Maine is determined to nominate him. LisaL Jun 4 #3
Enough yankee87 Jun 4 #5
Whatever ABC123Easy Jun 4 #6
I can guarantee that is not going to happen. LisaL Jun 4 #7
He is the PRESEPUMPTIVE nominee until the results are in from niyad Jun 4 #9
FYI, Bernie also endorsed John Fetterman MichMan Jun 4 #11
No. mcar Jun 4 #13
Stories of redemption and reform are woven into the fabric of our nation. pat_k Jun 4 #20
What is his redemption arc? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 4 #21
Yes, what exactly did he do for redemption? LisaL Jun 4 #23
I'd call the personal transformation he describes "redemption." YMMV. pat_k Jun 4 #26
He has an active account on KIK, a site know for predators. pcdb Jun 5 #70
When his wife revealed this past behavior to the campaign, she had NO intention it would be leaked to smear. pat_k Jun 5 #84
Have you heard the man speak? pat_k Jun 4 #25
And I don't believe he is being honest. LisaL Jun 4 #27
Things still don't add up. Nixie Jun 4 #32
Do you live in ME? If so, do you plan to vote for Collins (or not vote, a default vote for Collins). pat_k Jun 4 #33
Let's just say I am very glad I don't have to vote in ME. LisaL Jun 4 #35
What transformation does he describe? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 4 #28
Talking about the "dark periods" of struggles with alcohol, anger, and PTSD in the past tense... pat_k Jun 4 #29
So if he talks about it in a past tense, he doesn't have any of these issues anymore? LisaL Jun 4 #31
As I said an earlier post, YMMV pat_k Jun 4 #37
oh I thought maybe he had talked about how he recognized harm he had caused, had a moment where he realized he WhiskeyGrinder Jun 4 #38
I have only seen a handful of appearances so can't speak to much except what I saw. pat_k Jun 4 #50
It comes across as a bit unstable, imo. I've heard he's on 100% Nixie Jun 4 #30
According to the various bio bits, he is on disability for PTSD. niyad Jun 4 #39
👍. Nixie Jun 5 #67
Some people seem to be breaking their backs to make excuses for this guy MorbidButterflyTat Jun 5 #68
It is indeed. niyad Jun 5 #73
Maybe his 3 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan? He has spoken about his PTSD Nanjeanne Jun 4 #52
Or good coaching? Good PR? Abusive people, and rape apologists, niyad Jun 4 #36
I've known a few people over the years who abused alcohol who engaged in despicable behavior while drunk. pat_k Jun 4 #54
I said "abusive people", not people who abuse alcohol. And I notice niyad Jun 4 #57
I meant that people say and do things that are out of character when drinking. pat_k Jun 5 #59
P.S. pat_k Jun 5 #61
Gosh, I had no idea I was such an influential and powerful niyad Jun 5 #63
What you post matters ("you" in the collective sense). pat_k Jun 5 #64
This is what an authentically "flawed candidate" is. betsuni Jun 4 #41
Is that same Bernie who endorsed John Fetterman? Jose Garcia Jun 4 #16
Yep, that's the man. LisaL Jun 4 #24
Sanders: Fetterman 'Is Going To Be A Real Fighter For The Working Class' MorbidButterflyTat Jun 5 #62
Oh yeah, Sanders. I was for Conor Cha Jun 5 #71
I'm so concerned! Mysterian Jun 4 #8
So you're OK with this? mcar Jun 4 #14
I'm totally not okay with it. ABC123Easy Jun 4 #18
Some here are, I'm saddened to say mcar Jun 4 #19
Super duper concerned! ABC123Easy Jun 4 #17
It is troubling. mr715 Jun 4 #22
My gut tells me they're probably all employed by a centrist lobbying group. Emile Jun 4 #34
All the women are liars? niyad Jun 4 #40
My gut says they could be. Emile Jun 4 #42
Because women always lie? niyad Jun 4 #44
No, I was thinking of a centrist lobbying group Emile Jun 4 #46
Do I understand then that the difference is these women are lying niyad Jun 4 #51
I know there is a centrist lobbying group Emile Jun 4 #53
That poster blames "centrists" for everything. No sense needs to be made Nixie Jun 5 #65
Ah, thank you. niyad Jun 5 #72
What's your gut say about the stuff he admitted to? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 5 #66
He is being attacked by a centrist lobbying group. Emile Jun 5 #69
What are the terrible things the other women accused Platner of that he hasn't addressed? He has Nanjeanne Jun 4 #48
My gut tells me ABC123Easy Jun 5 #74
My gut tells me you don't live in Maine. Emile Jun 5 #75
My gut tells me ABC123Easy Jun 5 #76
Good, you saying the same thing over and over had my brain buffering. Emile Jun 5 #78
I could see it was ABC123Easy Jun 5 #79
Then why did you reply? Emile Jun 5 #80
Because ABC123Easy Jun 5 #81
See, my sense of humor has helped you from repeating the same thing over, and over. Emile Jun 5 #82
Yes ABC123Easy Jun 5 #83
And several don't. Read the whole article. Doesn't make any of them liars. People have said he and Nanjeanne Jun 4 #43
Oh sure. LisaL Jun 4 #45
Hey! mr715 Jun 4 #47
Urrrrp! orangecrush Jun 4 #49
. mr715 Jun 4 #55
I am not ok with this Wifes husband Jun 4 #56
I just want him to vote correctly, I don't want to date him questionseverything Jun 4 #58
Sadly, neither party is going to get extreme hotshots gulliver Jun 5 #60
It also seems like you're OK with six more years of Susan Collins. MineralMan Jun 5 #77
Exactly... Weirdo? Creep? Still better than a shill, JCMach1 Jun 5 #85
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