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haele

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35. When he was younger, he clever enough to be at least average

Mon May 25, 2026, 01:43 PM

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If you saw clips of his early interviews with more serious journalists, like the one with Barbara Walters where he was not scripted, he exhibited least a Jr. Collage vocabulary and enough savvy to attempt to pivot her focus, and when that didn't work, shut his trap instead of digging himself into a deeper hole.
As you indicated, his decline has been due to his privileged laziness, and probably way too much Adderall and partying to try to recapture his club hopping disco days - leading to public indications of development of some sort of dementia (instead of just lazy narcissism) since around the early 2010's.

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I'm so tired of people associating low IQ with Trump [View all] csusan Monday OP

KNR niyad Monday #1

Trump isn't developmentally disabled. His stupidity is the result of laziness and narcissism. Ocelot II Monday #2

I think he does have some cognitive impairment... ananda Monday #6

That is true. Cognitive impairment csusan Monday #10

I have some impairment too. ananda Monday #57

He never read any books, nothing on history except... duhneece Monday #12

Message auto-removed Name removed Monday #33

Enjoy your stay. A-Schwarzenegger Monday #39

When he was younger, he clever enough to be at least average haele Monday #35

Yes csusan Monday #55

Thanks for posting this Fiendish Thingy Monday #3

Yeah, fair enough re: fat shaming. He's an out-of-shape, old, over-weight KPN Monday #21

Well he is a big fat fuck, so there's that. BannonsLiver Monday #32

I know your type csusan Monday #90

Thanks. I had a reply for that other thread, but it would have been removed. NT mahatmakanejeeves Monday #4

Trump's no genius, but he's not that stupid. Ignorant, cruel, immoral, greedy, dishonest, suffering from multiple sop Monday #5

It heartens me csusan Monday #7

How does it make them feel? BannonsLiver Monday #41

Trump is a vicious, brutal psychopath. Irish_Dem Monday #8

DUers are NOT demeaning disabled people leftstreet Monday #9

You need to read some more posts csusan Monday #15

Yes, stupid, malignant asshole who constantly uses "low IQ" as a slur. GoCubsGo Monday #16

Dont agree csusan Monday #56

This message was self-deleted by its author GoCubsGo Monday #61

Thanks Leftstreet.. Escape Monday #18

And what does our Dear Leader (gagme) use as a dog whistle for African American? "Low IQ" Shame on him CurtEastPoint Monday #11

I work with MAGAt's and they are aeromanKC Monday #13

This message was self-deleted by its author CNYHarris Monday #66

I am sorry Wifes husband Monday #14

I need more context csusan Monday #17

He is what we say! BidenRocks Monday #19

K&R WhiskeyGrinder Monday #20

We also demean "the stupid" gulliver Monday #22

Stupid is not the same csusan Monday #58

You mistake me (but it's my fault) gulliver Monday #64

you are of course correct. (and make a worthy point) you are also stopdiggin Monday #23

I recently saw Mel Brooks. He asked what is the difference between a Jew and a Frenchman? twodogsbarking Monday #25

Thank you csusan Monday #44

Having once worked in a state institution for Developmentally Disabled, and in the non-amb children's unit of same Attilatheblond Monday #71

Trump uses the IQ to insult others. That is why others use it against him. twodogsbarking Monday #24

Does that make it ok? csusan Monday #46

Not condoning but it is what it is. twodogsbarking 22 hrs ago #102

Low IQ and stupid are different things nuxvomica Monday #26

So.... Escape Monday #27

Which is why I'm going to continue to call Trump whatever the hell I want to call him. BannonsLiver Monday #36

Really that's your defense csusan Monday #47

Really csusan Monday #60

I am sorry that you Escape Monday #77

He has savvy, knowledge, and awareness purr-rat beauty Monday #28

For every post I have seen where people say doc03 Monday #29

That doesn't make it ok csusan Monday #49

Ah yes the old he goes low we go high bit. BannonsLiver Monday #52

As has its corollary. Torchlight 15 hrs ago #109

All recent evidence to the contrary, but sure. BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #111

Another one for the "this is why we lose" file. BannonsLiver Monday #30

That isn't what i said csusan Monday #51

Trump accuses many people as having low-IQ, especially reporters and liberal politicians. Intractable Monday #31

I know I sound like a broken record but these people aren't stupid or crazy.... BlueTsunami2018 Monday #34

I agree with you that the discussions of Chump should not refer to his IQ FakeNoose Monday #37

I think what's needed is an approved list of insults for Trump. BannonsLiver Monday #38

Oh I don't care, I've posted a lot of Chump insults in the last 9 years FakeNoose Monday #42

My understanding is that IQ remains ... Dave says Monday #79

No actually they take the final test result and divide by one's age FakeNoose Monday #80

The ability to listen and admit error csusan Monday #63

Well, he's the one calling many people "low IQ individuals." MineralMan Monday #40

I agree mostly csusan Monday #67

Trump's no dumber than a mid-level MAGAt. He oasis Monday #43

Excellent points! yardwork Monday #45

Yes! csusan Monday #68

IQ tests are silly things anyway. yardwork Monday #74

High iq shouldnt necessarily be nearly as glorified as it is SSJVegeta Monday #48

Even though it'll likely have little effect, your sensitivity A-Schwarzenegger Monday #50

Thank you csusan Monday #54

Maybe try to apply the same sensitivity to those who disagree A-Schwarzenegger Monday #62

The IQ number is a very inadequate measure of something as complex as intelligence dedl67 Monday #53

I don't disagree csusan Monday #70

Yes, there are some uses of the IQ score as a screening tool to help guide the providing of services. dedl67 Monday #72

Totally csusan Monday #78

Don't disagree and have learned not to go there;however, like Trump's genius claim or Bible thumpers and morality.. surfered Monday #59

YES csusan Monday #73

Yes he is an idiot IbogaProject Monday #65

Sometimes people confuse ignorance with a low IQ. GoodRaisin Monday #69

Actually people do know csusan Monday #75

Pay attention: the ones who are of questionable intellegence are his supporters. marble falls Monday #76

I agree csusan Monday #82

I have several thoughts on this. ShazzieB Monday #81

Quite Disagree ProfessorGAC Monday #83

I disagree csusan Monday #86

Well actually he isn't below average and never has been csusan Monday #88

So calling him crazy or insane insults people with mental illness? Mental illness is not necessarily the person's fault RoeVWade Monday #84

I don't call someone mentally ill csusan Monday #87

Well said - K & R. Permanut Monday #85

This is silly. mr715 Monday #89

IQ equivalents are not standardized IQ tests csusan Monday #91

Some students received testing from child psychologists mr715 Monday #92

Thank you for your reply csusan Monday #93

I appreciate your position mr715 Monday #95

Thank you csusan 18 hrs ago #107

I'm posting again. csusan 18 hrs ago #108

Thank you for your thoughts. mr715 14 hrs ago #110

This is not accurate at all luv2fly Monday #97

How would you define profound csusan Yesterday #99

I'm not arguing with your classifications luv2fly Yesterday #100

I appreciate your passion and generally agree luv2fly Monday #94

This is true EdmondDantes_ Monday #96

Demanding sensitivity and immediate capitulation MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #98

Although it can't be entirely discounted that with age, in some individuals no_hypocrisy Yesterday #101

I agree. Willfully ignorant is a more accurate term for Trump. Raven123 22 hrs ago #103

dense, dim, doltish, dopey, half-witted, indiotic, imbecilic, morainic, mindless, dull, dumb, thick RoeVWade 22 hrs ago #104

Yes csusan 19 hrs ago #105

Since IQ is little more than a measure of how people score on IQ tests, I never bother with the term Orrex 19 hrs ago #106