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GreatGazoo

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92. The best autopsy on the 2016 campaign was the NYTimes best seller "Shattered"
Fri May 22, 2026, 05:25 PM
16 hrs ago

It was written by two Dem-leaning journalists who were given access to the entire HRC campaign. It is 100x better than the current autopsy because it was not written by or for insiders. And it correctly focused on some dynamics which are still in place:

There is a kind of insularity which treats constructive criticism as disloyalty
There is a fear of open debate and gloves-off primaries which posits that such Dem-on-Dem battles weaken the eventual nominee
The damage of the Sanders rift has not been adequately healed. Lost opportunity to win back some swings
Message control by committee that delays or freezes responses and makes candidates seem stiff, calculated and inauthentic.

The way to do the autopsy in a more positive way would have been to focus more on the future and thus side-step the perceived finger-pointing and CYA. Going forward:

1. Frame and hammer 80/20 issues that break our way.
2. Update the media mix. Less TV. More social media. More trips to the "lion's dens"
3. Define the opposition candidate(s) is a negative but truthful way before they have a chance to define themselves. Hammer on their flaw every single time they show it.
4. Separate your opponent from their natural base. Use surrogates to do this. I have ten recent examples of this but they are all third rails and easily misunderstood here...Hmmm. Okay, Gore was called a phony on climate change because "he flies on airplanes." Obama was attacked by GOP surrogates for being "not Black enough" (makes your head spin). For 2028, you would look at why Vance voters like Vance and then amplify voices of those calling Vance a phony on those issues. So maybe that is "He pretends to be a 'hillbilly' but went to Yale. Sold out to Theil and you're a sucker if you think he is going to help working people." The idea with this tactic is not to win any voters over but to weaken support for the opposing candidate and suppress their turn out.
5. Um, another mine field... Stop attacking the oppositions' voters. Stay on the candidate instead. In 2016 this was "basket of deplorables" It may be true. It may feel good but it is a tactical mistake because it motivates your opposition's base. Try thinking about this dynamic if it happened outside of politics. Imagine you go to buy a car and the first dealership tells you "You are just too damned stupid to know a good car deal when it is right in front of you! I give up. You deserve whatever you get at the dealership across town you stupid SOB."
6. Advance a narrative that is all encompassing. We are a 'herd of cats' but we can find strength and build if there is an umbrella narrative that all of us sit under. "Hope and Change" was great for this. "I'm with Her" was not.
7. Listen to voters, including those who disagree with you. Then speak back to all using the words and phrases they used. Simple and highly effective because it makes people feel heard and it avoids language that is perceived as elitist or alienating.


ETA: since I mentioned it:

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Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b Thursday #1
A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop Thursday #2
POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 Thursday #16
Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades 19 hrs ago #77
We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles Thursday #3
Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg Thursday #26
But, we think that people who aren't Bettie 20 hrs ago #69
Bingo MustLoveBeagles 19 hrs ago #74
The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil Thursday #4
Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop Thursday #7
He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia Thursday #8
Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a Thursday #10
Are we sure it was advice? Polybius Thursday #24
Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime Yesterday #30
I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan 19 hrs ago #73
He still thought that too after the election Polybius 14 hrs ago #97
Partly ego fujiyamasan 17 hrs ago #85
While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ Thursday #11
You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime Yesterday #29
Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #61
Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj Thursday #14
Here you go Sewa Thursday #15
That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj Thursday #18
The bottomline is that Biden Sewa Thursday #25
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #28
"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 Thursday #20
It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst 21 hrs ago #46
It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em 21 hrs ago #49
Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan 19 hrs ago #75
They were awful candidates Mad_Machine76 16 hrs ago #91
He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #62
Here's a great piece RoseTrellis 12 hrs ago #98
Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst 21 hrs ago #45
I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath Thursday #5
+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a Thursday #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Thursday #13
That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan Thursday #17
This is a good analysis. yardwork 23 hrs ago #33
It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan 20 hrs ago #57
Absolutely. yardwork 20 hrs ago #66
The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 20 hrs ago #54
They couldn't figure out how? yardwork 20 hrs ago #67
It's not true. Harris ran rebuttal ads in swing states pivoting to the economy. betsuni 15 hrs ago #96
No, she says she countered it by saying "Trump says a lot of things about me, but I know the thing you care about betsuni 15 hrs ago #95
Message auto-removed Name removed 20 hrs ago #59
Harris was forbidden to distance herself from the Biden years GreatGazoo 16 hrs ago #90
Agreed pinkstarburst 21 hrs ago #48
migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree 20 hrs ago #60
Thank you for this MustLoveBeagles 17 hrs ago #83
But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet Thursday #9
sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree 23 hrs ago #35
He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet 22 hrs ago #40
no he didn't bigtree 22 hrs ago #41
I was just quoting him leftstreet 21 hrs ago #42
no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree 21 hrs ago #44
It was from The National Review leftstreet 20 hrs ago #56
I can read bigtree 20 hrs ago #63
Okay leftstreet 20 hrs ago #68
I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree 19 hrs ago #72
Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages Thursday #12
what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree 22 hrs ago #37
If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages 21 hrs ago #43
this is delusionary bigtree 21 hrs ago #50
The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages 21 hrs ago #51
no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree 20 hrs ago #55
Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages 20 hrs ago #58
'the party' bigtree 20 hrs ago #64
Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages 20 hrs ago #70
not enough Dems showed up bigtree 19 hrs ago #76
You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages 19 hrs ago #79
the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree 19 hrs ago #81
After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages 19 hrs ago #82
Thank you again MustLoveBeagles 17 hrs ago #84
Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See Thursday #19
Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni Thursday #21
this shit is why we lost bigtree Thursday #22
I agree. hamsterjill Thursday #27
Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat 22 hrs ago #36
What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier 22 hrs ago #38
those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree 22 hrs ago #39
AGAIN, EXACTLY THIS. Voters B.See 15 hrs ago #94
In the engineering world it's usually root cause analysis or 5-whys fujiyamasan 16 hrs ago #89
Word MustLoveBeagles 17 hrs ago #86
EXACTLY THIS, Bigtree. Again, B.See 16 hrs ago #93
Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius Thursday #23
Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime Yesterday #31
Probably by consultants who want Bettie 19 hrs ago #71
I think it's more of a revolving door fujiyamasan 17 hrs ago #87
This is a disgrace. yardwork 23 hrs ago #32
most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree 23 hrs ago #34
I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork 21 hrs ago #47
I think they're good for some things bigtree 21 hrs ago #53
And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking 21 hrs ago #52
And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a 20 hrs ago #65
Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan 19 hrs ago #78
+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a 19 hrs ago #80
Kamala most definitely did NOT go too far left with identity politics or social issues biocube 16 hrs ago #88
The best autopsy on the 2016 campaign was the NYTimes best seller "Shattered" GreatGazoo 16 hrs ago #92
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