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53. I think they're good for some things
Fri May 22, 2026, 12:26 PM
1 hr ago

...but I'd be pressed to find more than the party faithful who even know what they are, much less depend on them to make up their minds about candidates.

I get everything about them except the importance of the 'analyzing,' which you can see only serves the party's detractors, and does absolutely nothing to generate the support for the party at elections that their critics claim they want DNC to produce at election time.

Look at what it's being used for here.

There's no true line between what their detractors say they want from DNC to any responsible or credible organizing effort; at least not in anything you've written here.

What is the throughline from the analysis to getting voters? I'd guess it's going to fall right along individual political aims, rather than some universal appeal.

That's because the best of what the DNC does is a crap shoot of disbursing resources they generate through their outreach to viable candidates. The messaging complaints aren't any better at generating voters than whatever the DNC is politicking with, so it's a wonder any of these folks complaining about them believe they have something substantive to offer that would get more people to vote Democratic.

I mean, the entire campaign was full of these people grandstanding against this Democrat or another Democratic org like THAT was the bee's knees of political opposition, instead of just going straight after republicans.

I mean, when should we have expected the actual support of the Democratic party in that election to begin from those folks?

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Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b 23 hrs ago #1
A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop 23 hrs ago #2
POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 20 hrs ago #16
Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades 33 min ago #77
We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles 23 hrs ago #3
Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg 15 hrs ago #26
But, we think that people who aren't Bettie 59 min ago #69
Bingo MustLoveBeagles 47 min ago #74
The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil 23 hrs ago #4
Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop 23 hrs ago #7
He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia 23 hrs ago #8
Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a 23 hrs ago #10
Are we sure it was advice? Polybius 16 hrs ago #24
Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime 11 hrs ago #30
I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan 48 min ago #73
While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ 22 hrs ago #11
You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime 12 hrs ago #29
Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver 1 hr ago #61
Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj 22 hrs ago #14
Here you go Sewa 20 hrs ago #15
That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj 19 hrs ago #18
The bottomline is that Biden Sewa 15 hrs ago #25
Post removed Post removed 13 hrs ago #28
"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 18 hrs ago #20
It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst 2 hrs ago #46
It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em 2 hrs ago #49
Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan 45 min ago #75
He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver 1 hr ago #62
Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst 2 hrs ago #45
I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath 23 hrs ago #5
+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a 23 hrs ago #6
Message auto-removed Name removed 22 hrs ago #13
That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan 19 hrs ago #17
This is a good analysis. yardwork 4 hrs ago #33
It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan 1 hr ago #57
Absolutely. yardwork 1 hr ago #66
The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 1 hr ago #54
They couldn't figure out how? yardwork 1 hr ago #67
Message auto-removed Name removed 1 hr ago #59
Agreed pinkstarburst 2 hrs ago #48
migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree 1 hr ago #60
But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet 23 hrs ago #9
sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree 3 hrs ago #35
He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet 3 hrs ago #40
no he didn't bigtree 2 hrs ago #41
I was just quoting him leftstreet 2 hrs ago #42
no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree 2 hrs ago #44
It was from The National Review leftstreet 1 hr ago #56
I can read bigtree 1 hr ago #63
Okay leftstreet 59 min ago #68
I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree 48 min ago #72
Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages 22 hrs ago #12
what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree 3 hrs ago #37
If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages 2 hrs ago #43
this is delusionary bigtree 2 hrs ago #50
The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages 2 hrs ago #51
no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree 1 hr ago #55
Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages 1 hr ago #58
'the party' bigtree 1 hr ago #64
Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages 54 min ago #70
not enough Dems showed up bigtree 40 min ago #76
You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages 29 min ago #79
the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree 17 min ago #81
After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages 10 min ago #82
Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See 19 hrs ago #19
Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni 17 hrs ago #21
this shit is why we lost bigtree 16 hrs ago #22
I agree. hamsterjill 15 hrs ago #27
Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat 3 hrs ago #36
What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier 3 hrs ago #38
those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree 3 hrs ago #39
Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius 16 hrs ago #23
Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime 11 hrs ago #31
Probably by consultants who want Bettie 52 min ago #71
This is a disgrace. yardwork 4 hrs ago #32
most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree 4 hrs ago #34
I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork 2 hrs ago #47
I think they're good for some things bigtree 1 hr ago #53
And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking 2 hrs ago #52
And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a 1 hr ago #65
Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan 31 min ago #78
+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a 26 min ago #80
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