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37. what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office?

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Fri May 22, 2026, 10:37 AM

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...all of the rest of their concerns could and can still be argued and reconciled in an actual democratic system - one which the person they enabled into office has made impossible to resolve anything these people claimed to care about.

The denial is with the voters who claimed to care about something or the other, but allowed Trump to get back into office.

ZERO responsibility for that defeat taken by these people, and most of them are back today still claiming Gaza, or Biden's age, or 'working class' was the reason they dragged the Democrats more than they ever did republicans, demanding our historically successful incumbent president step down, and expecting his VP to win a THREE MONTH RACE.

It's fucking ludicrous how much time is being wasted blaming the people who actually fiught all throughout for Democrats to win, instead of taking every opportunity to drag them down, and then standing back and going, 'who me?' when they succeeded.

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Facing intense internal pressure, DNC releases postelection autopsy that criticizes Kamala Harris [View all] dalton99a Yesterday OP

Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b Yesterday #1

A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop Yesterday #2

POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 Yesterday #16

Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades 9 hrs ago #77

We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #3

Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg Yesterday #26

But, we think that people who aren't Bettie 9 hrs ago #69

Bingo MustLoveBeagles 9 hrs ago #74

The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil Yesterday #4

Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop Yesterday #7

He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia Yesterday #8

Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a Yesterday #10

Are we sure it was advice? Polybius Yesterday #24

Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime 20 hrs ago #30

I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan 9 hrs ago #73

He still thought that too after the election Polybius 3 hrs ago #97

Partly ego fujiyamasan 6 hrs ago #85

While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #11

You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime 20 hrs ago #29

Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver 10 hrs ago #61

Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj Yesterday #14

Here you go Sewa Yesterday #15

That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj Yesterday #18

The bottomline is that Biden Sewa Yesterday #25

Post removed Post removed 22 hrs ago #28

"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 Yesterday #20

It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst 11 hrs ago #46

It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em 11 hrs ago #49

Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan 9 hrs ago #75

They were awful candidates Mad_Machine76 5 hrs ago #91

He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver 10 hrs ago #62

Here's a great piece RoseTrellis 2 hrs ago #98

Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst 11 hrs ago #45

I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #5

+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a Yesterday #6

Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #13

That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan Yesterday #17

This is a good analysis. yardwork 13 hrs ago #33

It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan 10 hrs ago #57

Absolutely. yardwork 9 hrs ago #66

The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 10 hrs ago #54

They couldn't figure out how? yardwork 9 hrs ago #67

It's not true. Harris ran rebuttal ads in swing states pivoting to the economy. betsuni 5 hrs ago #96

No, she says she countered it by saying "Trump says a lot of things about me, but I know the thing you care about betsuni 5 hrs ago #95

Message auto-removed Name removed 10 hrs ago #59

Harris was forbidden to distance herself from the Biden years GreatGazoo 6 hrs ago #90

Agreed pinkstarburst 11 hrs ago #48

migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree 10 hrs ago #60

Thank you for this MustLoveBeagles 7 hrs ago #83

But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet Yesterday #9

sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree 12 hrs ago #35

He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet 12 hrs ago #40

no he didn't bigtree 11 hrs ago #41

I was just quoting him leftstreet 11 hrs ago #42

no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree 11 hrs ago #44

It was from The National Review leftstreet 10 hrs ago #56

I can read bigtree 9 hrs ago #63

Okay leftstreet 9 hrs ago #68

I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree 9 hrs ago #72

Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages Yesterday #12

what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree 12 hrs ago #37

If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages 11 hrs ago #43

this is delusionary bigtree 10 hrs ago #50

The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages 10 hrs ago #51

no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree 10 hrs ago #55

Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages 10 hrs ago #58

'the party' bigtree 9 hrs ago #64

Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages 9 hrs ago #70

not enough Dems showed up bigtree 9 hrs ago #76

You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages 9 hrs ago #79

the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree 8 hrs ago #81

After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages 8 hrs ago #82

Thank you again MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #84

Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See Yesterday #19

Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni Yesterday #21

this shit is why we lost bigtree Yesterday #22

I agree. hamsterjill Yesterday #27

Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat 12 hrs ago #36

What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier 12 hrs ago #38

those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree 12 hrs ago #39

AGAIN, EXACTLY THIS. Voters B.See 5 hrs ago #94

In the engineering world it's usually root cause analysis or 5-whys fujiyamasan 6 hrs ago #89

Word MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #86

EXACTLY THIS, Bigtree. Again, B.See 5 hrs ago #93

Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius Yesterday #23

Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime 20 hrs ago #31

Probably by consultants who want Bettie 9 hrs ago #71

I think it's more of a revolving door fujiyamasan 6 hrs ago #87

This is a disgrace. yardwork 13 hrs ago #32

most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree 13 hrs ago #34

I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork 11 hrs ago #47

I think they're good for some things bigtree 10 hrs ago #53

And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking 10 hrs ago #52

And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a 9 hrs ago #65

Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan 9 hrs ago #78

+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a 9 hrs ago #80

Kamala most definitely did NOT go too far left with identity politics or social issues biocube 6 hrs ago #88

The best autopsy on the 2016 campaign was the NYTimes best seller "Shattered" GreatGazoo 5 hrs ago #92