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22. this shit is why we lost
Thu May 21, 2026, 09:28 PM
23 hrs ago

...navelgazing instead of focusing our political energy and opposition on the republicans.

Replacing Biden was as good as a republican op. Probably originated as one.

The number of Democrats who have come to believe that dragging their own party is some sort of political genius that gains the party votes at election time is staggering.

I've been told by those on high that this is good and normal, but does it attract votes? Does dragging our own party get us the majority?

If constant critics can't answer that question, they don't deserve to be dominating the political discussions and debates.

There's NOTHING this report is good for except dragging Democrats and providing aid and comfort to the opposition.

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Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b Yesterday #1
A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop Yesterday #2
POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 Yesterday #16
Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades 7 hrs ago #77
We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #3
Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg 22 hrs ago #26
But, we think that people who aren't Bettie 7 hrs ago #69
Bingo MustLoveBeagles 7 hrs ago #74
The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil Yesterday #4
Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop Yesterday #7
He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia Yesterday #8
Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a Yesterday #10
Are we sure it was advice? Polybius 22 hrs ago #24
Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime 18 hrs ago #30
I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan 7 hrs ago #73
He still thought that too after the election Polybius 1 hr ago #97
Partly ego fujiyamasan 4 hrs ago #85
While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #11
You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime 18 hrs ago #29
Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #61
Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj Yesterday #14
Here you go Sewa Yesterday #15
That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj Yesterday #18
The bottomline is that Biden Sewa 22 hrs ago #25
Post removed Post removed 20 hrs ago #28
"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 Yesterday #20
It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst 9 hrs ago #46
It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em 9 hrs ago #49
Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan 7 hrs ago #75
They were awful candidates Mad_Machine76 3 hrs ago #91
He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #62
Here's a great piece RoseTrellis 32 min ago #98
Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst 9 hrs ago #45
I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #5
+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a Yesterday #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #13
That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan Yesterday #17
This is a good analysis. yardwork 11 hrs ago #33
It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan 8 hrs ago #57
Absolutely. yardwork 7 hrs ago #66
The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 8 hrs ago #54
They couldn't figure out how? yardwork 7 hrs ago #67
It's not true. Harris ran rebuttal ads in swing states pivoting to the economy. betsuni 3 hrs ago #96
No, she says she countered it by saying "Trump says a lot of things about me, but I know the thing you care about betsuni 3 hrs ago #95
Message auto-removed Name removed 8 hrs ago #59
Harris was forbidden to distance herself from the Biden years GreatGazoo 4 hrs ago #90
Agreed pinkstarburst 9 hrs ago #48
migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree 8 hrs ago #60
Thank you for this MustLoveBeagles 5 hrs ago #83
But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet Yesterday #9
sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree 10 hrs ago #35
He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet 10 hrs ago #40
no he didn't bigtree 9 hrs ago #41
I was just quoting him leftstreet 9 hrs ago #42
no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree 9 hrs ago #44
It was from The National Review leftstreet 8 hrs ago #56
I can read bigtree 8 hrs ago #63
Okay leftstreet 7 hrs ago #68
I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree 7 hrs ago #72
Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages Yesterday #12
what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree 10 hrs ago #37
If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages 9 hrs ago #43
this is delusionary bigtree 8 hrs ago #50
The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages 8 hrs ago #51
no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree 8 hrs ago #55
Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages 8 hrs ago #58
'the party' bigtree 7 hrs ago #64
Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages 7 hrs ago #70
not enough Dems showed up bigtree 7 hrs ago #76
You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages 7 hrs ago #79
the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree 7 hrs ago #81
After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages 6 hrs ago #82
Thank you again MustLoveBeagles 5 hrs ago #84
Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See Yesterday #19
Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni 23 hrs ago #21
this shit is why we lost bigtree 23 hrs ago #22
I agree. hamsterjill 22 hrs ago #27
Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat 10 hrs ago #36
What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier 10 hrs ago #38
those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree 10 hrs ago #39
AGAIN, EXACTLY THIS. Voters B.See 3 hrs ago #94
In the engineering world it's usually root cause analysis or 5-whys fujiyamasan 4 hrs ago #89
Word MustLoveBeagles 4 hrs ago #86
EXACTLY THIS, Bigtree. Again, B.See 3 hrs ago #93
Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius 23 hrs ago #23
Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime 18 hrs ago #31
Probably by consultants who want Bettie 7 hrs ago #71
I think it's more of a revolving door fujiyamasan 4 hrs ago #87
This is a disgrace. yardwork 11 hrs ago #32
most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree 11 hrs ago #34
I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork 9 hrs ago #47
I think they're good for some things bigtree 8 hrs ago #53
And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking 8 hrs ago #52
And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a 7 hrs ago #65
Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan 7 hrs ago #78
+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a 7 hrs ago #80
Kamala most definitely did NOT go too far left with identity politics or social issues biocube 4 hrs ago #88
The best autopsy on the 2016 campaign was the NYTimes best seller "Shattered" GreatGazoo 3 hrs ago #92
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