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In reply to the discussion: Stop calling it an f-ing "settlement" [View all]pat_k
(13,894 posts)14. Al least The Prospect makes this clear...
... in the body of the article. The title leaves something to be desired tho.
Wish the judge has simply dismissed, as would have been the most obvious course of action. I suppose she wanted to create an indisputable record to withstand appeal. What is truly horrific about this is that such "caution" is only necessary because six black-robed traitors have hijacked SCOTUS.
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/ideas/law/the-weekly-constitutional/73630/trump-irs-extraordinary-settlement-with-own-government
The extraordinary settlement agreement between Trump and his own government
The first remarkable feature, which this Weekly Constitutional blog has covered before, is that there was not really a dispute between the parties capable of being adjudicated by the courts. The judge in this case doubted that the court had jurisdiction to hear a suit brought by one person against entities he effectively controlled.
The judge could have then struck out the case for want of jurisdiction, but she instead wanted to hear the arguments of the parties on the point. The deadline for those submissions was this week. But Trump and his fellow plaintiffshis son and his corporationdid not make any submissions. They settled the case instead.
And this brings us to the second remarkable feature: the extraordinary nature of the supposed settlement. Here, the starting point is that in the eyes of the court there is no settlement. According to the court recordthe docket is publicly available herethe suit has been withdrawn. The plaintiffs have simply dropped the case.
...
Many things can be done by a contract, the legal device by which parties can agree to have obligations and rights which they otherwise would not have at law. Sometimes agreements, including those for settling litigation, can contain complex and imaginative provisions. But what is being done here is something else.
This settlement agreement is setting out the sort of thing which is normally done by primary legislation. It is taking taxpayers money and creating the means by which parties not connected to the litigation can benefit from payments by that money. This is not about litigation or its settlement: this is fiscal policy by other means.
The first remarkable feature, which this Weekly Constitutional blog has covered before, is that there was not really a dispute between the parties capable of being adjudicated by the courts. The judge in this case doubted that the court had jurisdiction to hear a suit brought by one person against entities he effectively controlled.
The judge could have then struck out the case for want of jurisdiction, but she instead wanted to hear the arguments of the parties on the point. The deadline for those submissions was this week. But Trump and his fellow plaintiffshis son and his corporationdid not make any submissions. They settled the case instead.
And this brings us to the second remarkable feature: the extraordinary nature of the supposed settlement. Here, the starting point is that in the eyes of the court there is no settlement. According to the court recordthe docket is publicly available herethe suit has been withdrawn. The plaintiffs have simply dropped the case.
...
Many things can be done by a contract, the legal device by which parties can agree to have obligations and rights which they otherwise would not have at law. Sometimes agreements, including those for settling litigation, can contain complex and imaginative provisions. But what is being done here is something else.
This settlement agreement is setting out the sort of thing which is normally done by primary legislation. It is taking taxpayers money and creating the means by which parties not connected to the litigation can benefit from payments by that money. This is not about litigation or its settlement: this is fiscal policy by other means.
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If Trump robbed a bank at gunpoint, everyone would just call it a "settlement."
Irish_Dem
Thursday
#2
The next president better check that he hasn't made off with fort knox gold a la Marcos.
pat_k
Thursday
#8
Understand it was a setup. Start a bogus "threat" of a lawsuit and then settle out of court...
Wounded Bear
Thursday
#5
Judge is taking the position that the lawsuit does not include any settlement
LetMyPeopleVote
Thursday
#15