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In reply to the discussion: Hillary - Here are the facts: People have always had and will always have abortions in all 50 states. [View all]ShazzieB
(22,859 posts)23. Allow me to recommend a book about that!
The title is The Worst of Times, and the author is Patricia G. Miller. It was published in 1993 and has been out of print for a while now, but there are still used copies floating around that can easily be found online wherever used books are sold. I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to know more about what abortion was like in this country pre-Roe.
This book is not for the faint of heart; there are stories in it that will curl your hair. But this information has never been more vitally important than it is now.
From the jacket blurb:
All the oceans of verbiage and tons of newsprint on the subject of abortion boil down to one simple question. That question is not whether we will have abortions but what kind of abortions we will have. It is a question framed in stark human terms in Patricia Miller's The Worst of Times, which introduces us to dozens of ordinary Americans who have had firsthand experience with illegal abortion: women who survived the pain, humiliation, shame, and terror; motherless children of women who died; doctors who treated the terrible consequences of botched abortions; the abortionists themselves - barbers, midwives, mechanics; and the cops, coroners, and DAs charged with upholding the law. Abortion is a complex issue, but it is not an issue that exists abstractly in the eyes of ethicists or theologians. It is an issue that exists in the flesh - in the flesh of women with complicated lives and large responsibilities and a whole web of personal, familial, and moral concerns. As The Worst of Times makes powerfully and painfully clear, it is a question that women must be allowed to answer for themselves.
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Hillary - Here are the facts: People have always had and will always have abortions in all 50 states. [View all]
Swede
12 hrs ago
OP
Only women are impacted by abortion or the lack of safe abortions. It's not a people thing.
Autumn
12 hrs ago
#4
I can assure you no man has ever had an abortion. Men may be a bystander in a woman's abortion
Autumn
12 hrs ago
#6
Having helped men and nonbinary people get abortions, I feel sorry that you live in such a narrow world.
WhiskeyGrinder
11 hrs ago
#9
Only human beings with x only chromosomes can create and carry babies
questionseverything
5 hrs ago
#26
People do, in fact, like abortion. It's a solution that works for them.
WhiskeyGrinder
7 hrs ago
#22
I am in my eighties. Abortion was never legal when I was single and birth control was hit or miss.
appleannie1
10 hrs ago
#12
i'm old enough to remember those days. fortunately never had to face that myself, but
mopinko
6 hrs ago
#24
Even the Bush family was pro-choice after a family friend died from a back-alley abortion.
OMGWTF
5 hrs ago
#29
Part of it's the economy, but it's more because the abortion pill protocol makes it easier to end a pregnancy,
WhiskeyGrinder
10 hrs ago
#16
But this is not about reality, it is about the control of women. Other methods have been used and have killed women.
efhmc
9 hrs ago
#18
We can do so much better than rusty coathanger abortions,..and then sepsis,....
magicarpet
5 hrs ago
#31