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ShazzieB

(22,809 posts)
67. LOTS of people don't know the difference.
Mon May 4, 2026, 04:19 PM
Yesterday

I'd bet money on it. I didn't know the difference myself until the other day, when someone used the word "totenkopf" in a post and I used that word to do some googling,

Aside from that, I didn't and still don't know what the original tattoo actually looked like. All I've seen are photos of the covered tattoo as it looks now. But even if it looked EXACTLY like a Nazi totenkopf, I'm skeptical of how many people would immediately make that association. I would not have, and I'm someone who has read fairly extensively about the holocaust. I remember reading that the SS used a symbol called a "death's head," but no more than that.

This is the kind of thing that if you know it, you KNOW it. I get that. Now that I know, I'll never be able to forget it, but until a few days ago I didn't associate a skull and crossbones with anything other than pirates. I also had no idea that the Nazis used a certain specific style of of skull and crossbones, or that that particular style is supposed to be instantly recognizable as a *GASP* Nazi symbol.

Like I said, if you know, you know, and once you do know, you can't unsee it. But if you don't know, the meaning of that image is far from obvious imo. I can easily believe Platner didn't know what it was when he got the tattoo. I can easily imagine a young man seeing that and thinking, "Oh, that looks badass!"

He found out out what it was somewhere along the way, and he eventually got it covered, so good for him. If he didn't get it covered immediately, it's probably because he liked his "badass" skull and crossbones tattoo and didn't immediately comprehend the seriousness of what it could be taken to stand for, even after someone alerted him to it. When he finally did realize just how much it really mattered, he took care of it. Good for him. I just don't see what the big deal is.

I know some are uneasy about possibly electing another Fetterman, but I think thst was just a weird fluke. The man had a stroke that damaged his brain and changed his whole personality! I know Platner is not perfect, but Mainers seem to REALLY like him. If he has a chance of flipping Collins' seat from red to blue, I say more power to him.

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If not him, then who? walkingman Saturday #1
Well,... There is always the old standby. magicarpet Saturday #26
I wish Senator Susan Collins would put her red MAGA hat on gifted to her by King Dotard. She would look so cute. magicarpet Saturday #28
There are still two Dems running in the primary... PunkinPi 3 hrs ago #86
Thanks - I thought it was a forgone conclusion. walkingman 2 hrs ago #87
In a State modrepub Saturday #2
No, probably not a liability, displacedvermoter Saturday #4
If he won the D primary and would vote for the D Senate Majority Leader RandomNumbers Saturday #7
Fair enough... displacedvermoter Saturday #8
Who hasn't gotten a cute dolphin tat... jmbar2 Saturday #3
the circle of life...the growing and stretching circle of life. ret5hd Saturday #5
all-encompassing circle of life jmbar2 Saturday #9
Get a Nazi death camp guard tattoo while drunk one thing...having it for almost 20 years I less understand EX500rider Saturday #6
oh I understand it alright Skittles Sunday #34
I wonder how many Israeli military sport the same kind of tattoos ?? Jack Valentino 21 hrs ago #75
I doubt the Israeli military is fond of Nazi imagery EX500rider 13 hrs ago #83
Intellectual Honesty Test... would you feel the same way if a GOP'er had the Nazi tattoo WarGamer Saturday #10
A very good question sarisataka Saturday #14
Should we jump on board for Susan Collins now? Kingofalldems Saturday #23
I'm glad I don't live in Maine. I'd never vote for her but I get bad vibes from him. FascismIsDeath Saturday #25
Good on you about Gabbard and Cha Sunday #55
I still watched "Real Time" back then and RFJ jr was sort of a regular. FascismIsDeath Sunday #57
I remember those ASSad/Gabbard wars on Cha Sunday #58
obviously not... WarGamer Sunday #46
That's an interesting thought BannonsLiver Yesterday #64
It isn't the tattoo. It is how he handled it Bluetus Saturday #11
I think he explained himself Mossfern Saturday #12
It's on their fucking hats. Iggo Saturday #18
A skulll and crossbones? Mossfern Saturday #19
Not "a" skull and crossbones, but "that" skull and crossbones. Iggo Saturday #20
Here's mass murderer and war criminal Jochen Peiper sporting that same logo as the tattoo WarGamer Sunday #47
Never Forget. Iggo Sunday #50
SS officer cap sarisataka Saturday #21
Thanks for the clarification Mossfern Saturday #29
Yeah, I've read a half dozen books on the nazis and watched ALL (well not all but lots) the documentaries on the nazis Hassin Bin Sober Saturday #30
LOTS of people don't know the difference. ShazzieB Yesterday #67
Democracy is difficult Bluetus Yesterday #72
You can think of all the positives you want. Iggo 23 hrs ago #73
Not too many of those people wandering around anymore, Jack Valentino 21 hrs ago #76
he did get it removed eShirl Saturday #13
That is not my understanding. Bluetus Saturday #17
He had an entire tattoo placed over it. Hassin Bin Sober Saturday #31
There are articles to that effect. Bluetus Saturday #33
He may have found out how expensive and time-consuming tattoo removal can be. ShazzieB Yesterday #66
Actually it is much cheaper to "overwrite it" than to try to have the original tattoo 'removed'... Jack Valentino 21 hrs ago #77
Tattoo removal is complicated, I've had it Polybius 28 min ago #90
It took him nearly 20 years to do so ... n/t wackadoo wabbit Sunday #36
Whar do youu mean he hasn't "dealt with it"? ShazzieB Yesterday #70
He covered it up last Fall Polybius 32 min ago #88
He covered it up Polybius 31 min ago #89
One thing about the military, generally speaking there is no shortage of opportunities Uncle Joe Saturday #15
I have to believe that he knew what it was and he's lying about it, or that he's too dumb to know what it was. Iggo Saturday #16
If possible I would have tried getting it covered Captain Zero Yesterday #69
I see the republicans do not like this guy. Kingofalldems Saturday #22
Republicans and the conservative bingo brigade hate him. Hassin Bin Sober Saturday #32
And I remember the bingo brigade who hounded Joy Reid over supposed homophobic posts made Nixie Sunday #37
Her being a homophobic bigot and lying about it EdmondDantes_ Sunday #43
That's not what I was getting at. My post was about those Nixie Sunday #44
"NO RAGRETS" flvegan Saturday #24
I was in the army during training and every single base had at least 5 tattoo businesses within 10 miles... Enter stage left Saturday #27
He had it for NEARLY 20 YEARS before deciding to cover it up wackadoo wabbit Sunday #35
i just saw your post and didn't realize he just covered it up because of this campaign now.... Nixie Sunday #39
Platner just said recently on Jen Psaki's show that he lives in rural Maine and has a lot of friends Nixie Sunday #38
There's a post somewhere here in General Discussion.... LAS14 Sunday #42
Look up 3rd Panzer Division Totenkopf. It's right there. My husband recognized it right away, Nixie Sunday #45
that's impossible... it's the one of the most recognizable images of WW2 WarGamer Sunday #48
Ww2 ended 81 years ago, why would you expect a 40 year old to be familiar with the symbolism? questionseverything Sunday #51
One would expect sarisataka Sunday #56
exactly... it's like a Roman History Classicist having no idea what SPQR means WarGamer Yesterday #59
The candidate isn't claiming to be a historian, is he? questionseverything Yesterday #60
We are talking about the claimed historian sarisataka Yesterday #62
I would have to say that historian sarisataka Sunday #49
This message was self-deleted by its author usedtobedemgurl Sunday #40
Good points. Thanks. nt LAS14 Sunday #41
As a Jew, the tattoo really pesters me LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #52
it is creepy Skittles 19 hrs ago #82
I am so glad I don't have to vote for him. 50 Shades Of Blue Sunday #53
Me, too. But Dems in Maine should absolutely vote for him. Iggo Sunday #54
Back around the late 80s to the early 90s, I knew a guy who called himself "Stardust" and was a "christian"... GReedDiamond Yesterday #61
Yeah, sure RoseTrellis Yesterday #63
Why? BannonsLiver Yesterday #65
Goes back to things I've previously said: B.See Yesterday #68
If and when he wins the primary ... sheshe2 19 hrs ago #81
Thanks, Sheshe for the input. As always, B.See 3 hrs ago #85
See also, the trope about those pretty girls getting Chinese characters ... Ursus Rex Yesterday #71
Young men are idiots. hunter 21 hrs ago #74
My younger daughter got a small honu (sea turtle) tattoo on her ankle DFW 20 hrs ago #78
A good rule I have lived by, is 'don't tattoo myself' ! Jack Valentino 20 hrs ago #79
Just an observation -- Mike Niendorff 20 hrs ago #80
If there is a better option who can win? RoeVWade 13 hrs ago #84
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