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DFW

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50. Agreed.

Mon May 4, 2026, 09:37 AM

16 hrs ago

She also suffered from distortion of her actions and positionso. At B one point it was popular to say that she either neglected or brushed off Maine’s Native American tribes. I asked her about that point blank. She said that the ones that made the most noise and complained loudest were NOT looking to improve the status of their people as a whole, but were looking for financial perks for already wealthy casino owners. When they didn’t get everything they wanted, THEN they whined that Janet wasn’t looking out for the tribes. “Corporate Democrats,” my ass. Just because they didn’t have Italian last names, it didn’t mean there was no mafia-like structure that in the tribal casino ownership.

But that's all water under the bridge now. We are all still allowed to hope for a pleasant surprise from Platner. It’s also up to him to deliver or not. Yelling “corporate” all the time will change exactly nothing and conbince exactly no one.

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Maine Just Delivered a Brutal Wake-Up Call to Democrats. Will It Land? [View all] luv2fly 19 hrs ago OP

how goes Maine, so goes the nation. nt Javaman 18 hrs ago #1

Up to 1936. Then, it was "as goes Maine, so goes Vermont." DFW 16 hrs ago #45

After Maine the bellwether was considered Missouri fujiyamasan 48 min ago #165

2026 is not 1936...... Jack Valentino 4 min ago #169

Remember the Maine, GreenWave 9 hrs ago #128

Yep Aviation Pro 18 hrs ago #2

Her biggest sin is being an older women dsc 18 hrs ago #3

she sure didn't roll over for the likes of Trump or LePage eShirl 18 hrs ago #5

I don't like either her or Platner but yes let's get real JBTaurus83 18 hrs ago #6

if we don't live in Maine, we can't do much about it... still if Platner helps give a Dem Senate, I'll take him LymphocyteLover 17 hrs ago #24

I'm thinking he will likely resemble Bernie more than Manchin or Fetterman eShirl 16 hrs ago #44

I hope that this is the outcome. JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #48

Second that. republianmushroom 8 hrs ago #141

Works for me NewLarry 7 hrs ago #146

.... Skittles 1 hr ago #163

I don't see Graham Platner turning centrist. Emile 16 hrs ago #47

I hope so! JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #49

Feel your pain yankee87 14 hrs ago #72

Understandable. You have good reason. KPN 12 hrs ago #92

Fetterman Mad_Machine76 8 hrs ago #142

And that's OK. We need to stop putting up 79 year olds. It isn't working for us. Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #7

I'm 43 and I feel like I'm out of touch JBTaurus83 18 hrs ago #9

Younger people need to vote in greater numbers. Walleye 18 hrs ago #14

It's something I never understand JBTaurus83 17 hrs ago #18

Me neither, I guess they think that not voting is making some sort of statement when Walleye 17 hrs ago #21

I think they are just self centered JBTaurus83 17 hrs ago #23

Honestly, I see it as an intellectual laziness. It's just too hard. Walleye 17 hrs ago #26

Hence why we have the pig as president. JBTaurus83 17 hrs ago #34

Much easier and more gratifying to read Twitter all day than a history book Walleye 16 hrs ago #51

And when you do read history JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #53

We need mandatory civics classes in high school. SergeStorms 10 hrs ago #119

Are there really school districts where that is NOT the case?? Ursus Rex 9 hrs ago #125

At 43 you still are young. Katinfl 17 hrs ago #27

Thanks, I like that train of thinking lol. JBTaurus83 17 hrs ago #35

I think they don't vote -- or didn't in past elections -- as much as they should because they haven't lived long enough KPN 12 hrs ago #101

My son, age 39, NewLarry 7 hrs ago #147

Then offer them something to vote for - TBF 13 hrs ago #85

All they have to do is make a choice. I don't know what they think they're going to get from it, a pony. Walleye 12 hrs ago #99

Whoooooosh .... nt TBF 12 hrs ago #106

What is the point of the " pony " insult? questionseverything 12 hrs ago #108

Bingo. nt TBF 12 hrs ago #112

Not every elderly person is out of touch with the financial difficulties young people face. Bluepinky 13 hrs ago #75

I totally agree, Bluepinky! BComplex 12 hrs ago #100

Right you are! Wish Bernie had been allowed to run! Bluepinky 12 hrs ago #103

keep dreaming Skittles 1 hr ago #164

Yep or even the changes in the tax code since the early 80s IbogaProject 11 hrs ago #117

I agree; we need younger talent as long as they're equally competent. Callie1979 12 hrs ago #90

We need a mix. quakerboy 12 hrs ago #97

Yes... displacedvermoter 17 hrs ago #28

100% obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #30

Agreed. DFW 16 hrs ago #50

While I don't want another Manchin or Sinema or Fetterman dsc 15 hrs ago #54

That pesky nazi tatoo RoseTrellis 14 hrs ago #68

I can't disagree with that DFW 19 min ago #168

Her biggest problem is being a corporate Democrat that always loses to Collins. biocube 15 hrs ago #56

She never ran against Collins much less lost to her dsc 14 hrs ago #64

. MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #66

"..corporate.." Is That WHy "Gov Mills Stood UP Cha 9 hrs ago #123

Sounds like AI mr715 5 hrs ago #158

Not quite Buzz cook 14 hrs ago #69

The state party establishment never learns... the nelm 12 hrs ago #96

Her biggest sin was literally phoning it in while sitting in her den behind a web cam. Hassin Bin Sober 12 hrs ago #94

Hartmann could never bring himself to support HRC. Nothing much has changed. nt pnwmom 12 hrs ago #110

Poeple like that is why we got Traitor & Faxcism Cha 9 hrs ago #122

I might argue "simply being old" A_Woman_from_MI 10 hrs ago #118

Informative article....K & R democrank 18 hrs ago #4

There are a few ideas that never get old JBTaurus83 18 hrs ago #10

Hopefully, many Maine voters don't "talk the way" he talks, even if they vote for him displacedvermoter 17 hrs ago #33

"and promise real real progressive change" KS Toronado 18 hrs ago #8

Yes indeed. Magoo48 17 hrs ago #38

Kick dalton99a 18 hrs ago #11

Didnt realize snowybirdie 18 hrs ago #12

"People are sick and tired of mealy-mouthed corporate Democrats who run on focus-grouped slogans sop 18 hrs ago #13

I don't think yelling at our fellow Democrats and calling them. Names is going to work this time. Walleye 18 hrs ago #15

Word BaronChocula 12 hrs ago #98

Then being surprised when Democratic supporters object to the yelling, name-calling, accusations. betsuni 11 hrs ago #113

And, it's not going to help win the Midterms.. All Cha 9 hrs ago #126

Even in private life JBTaurus83 18 hrs ago #16

And, I'm sick of Fucking Fascists Running our Cha 9 hrs ago #124

The "New Affordability Agenda" that's a "genuine populist agenda": those are usual Democratic issues, like Harris 2024. betsuni 17 hrs ago #17

Neoliberal is not a left/right descriptor, it is an economic ideology Fiendish Thingy 17 hrs ago #43

"The uselessness of 'neoliberal' as an analytic tool is the very thing that makes it useful as a factional betsuni 13 hrs ago #76

It only documents how the term is used inaccurately Fiendish Thingy 13 hrs ago #86

Neoliberal equals Neoconservative Soul_of_Wit 13 hrs ago #81

False Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #91

Yes MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #67

So does Susan Collins RoseTrellis 14 hrs ago #71

Yeah, people vote because of Susan Collins' hog. mr715 13 hrs ago #79

I would love for someone to show me how Graham Platner has "taken on power." WhiskeyGrinder 17 hrs ago #19

I think that means strongly worded sentences. betsuni 17 hrs ago #20

He hasn't JBTaurus83 17 hrs ago #22

Voters who support Platner hope he will "take on power." sop 17 hrs ago #36

People should hold off on popping the champagne. JBTaurus83 17 hrs ago #42

I think that means he bad mouths Schumer. Nixie 14 hrs ago #57

He spoke truth to power by running, by talking with the people of Maine questionseverything 12 hrs ago #111

Planter needs to "beat" Colins and Stop Trashing Cha 8 hrs ago #138

It is yet to be determined. I remember when Fetterman was the shinny new object that everyone was "fawning" over. lostincalifornia 11 hrs ago #116

I certainly wish we would of known fetterman would be more loyal to Israel than the United States questionseverything 6 hrs ago #152

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia 5 hrs ago #157

POdcasts? nt Cha 9 hrs ago #129

But does Hartmann JustAnotherGen 17 hrs ago #25

Well we know Platner thinks Black Americans don't tip MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #65

America is always looking for a hero Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #80

Not in Maine but this is what every Dem voter in my house is saying AllyCat 17 hrs ago #29

Most rank and file Dems know our nation is near collapse JBTaurus83 17 hrs ago #37

Yes! We need bamagal62 17 hrs ago #39

Send this to your local party JBTaurus83 17 hrs ago #40

TWS with Jon Stewert did an hour interview with Graham Platner Greyhead 17 hrs ago #31

I was skeptical but this interview turned me into a fan. Listening to him rather than people talking ABOUT him does it. Amaryllis 13 hrs ago #73

Thank you for posting Thom, gab13by13 17 hrs ago #32

Post removed Post removed 12 hrs ago #109

This is a mandatory Progressives angrychair 17 hrs ago #41

I really liked Jasmine Crockett. She spoke very plainly and her speeches were brief. LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #46

I really like her as well JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #52

As a Texan, do you think she might have won karynnj 13 hrs ago #84

I have heard from Roland Martin that her internal infrastructure was lacking. LeftInTX 12 hrs ago #95

She got gerrymandered in Texas, and it's extremely unfair FakeNoose 12 hrs ago #104

Some math. Maine population is about 1.4 million Nixie 15 hrs ago #55

Bernie has the winning message. usonian 14 hrs ago #58

Republicans sure seem to be scared of him. biocube 14 hrs ago #59

That's why I find it strange that some Dems are still giving him grief Just_Vote_Dem 14 hrs ago #61

Your username checks out Soul_of_Wit 12 hrs ago #87

They are terrified of the next election. You Emile 14 hrs ago #63

I don't think it's progessivism Boo1 14 hrs ago #60

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I've been saying since 2016: we are getting populism whether we want it or not. Better ours than theirs. Hassin Bin Sober 12 hrs ago #102

What has Platner done to instill such unwavering confidence? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #62

They'd-damn-better-listen-this-time... Why? betsuni 12 hrs ago #93

Brava, MorbidButterfly! I don't like beinG "Threatened" Cha 7 hrs ago #143

Why would ANYONE think your post is something the rw would advocate? sheshe2 6 hrs ago #155

Mahalo, she.. For more reasons than one! 💙 ☮️🌻🕯️🕊️💜 Cha 6 hrs ago #156

Dems are overperforming all over! 😃 MorbidButterflyTat 4 hrs ago #162

Nothing. mr715 5 hrs ago #159

ANyone listen to Jon Stewart's interview with him? THat made me a fan. Amaryllis 14 hrs ago #70

So this guy Platner fought in BUSH/CHENEY phony wars, but not one Nixie 11 hrs ago #114

Wow... Saves All his Bashing fo Dems.. and who is Cha 7 hrs ago #144

Actually he had a lot to say about the Iraq war and none of it was good.Maybe you skipped that part. Amaryllis 5 hrs ago #161

It's not in this interview. Nixie 40 min ago #166

I just learned a scary thing from my Mainiac brother about a Maine congressional race. It seems Vinca 13 hrs ago #74

Egads, that sucks. He's no spring chicken either. He's got to be close to 80. Emile 13 hrs ago #78

Just checked. moose65 10 hrs ago #121

hope he loses as badly as the last time he ran for anything eShirl 13 hrs ago #83

Too Early For This! Aepps22 13 hrs ago #82

Wouldn't this be more appropriate in November as he becomes Senator elect? karynnj 12 hrs ago #88

I agree. But Thom needs to realize that using AI art and AI music is ALSO pro-corporate and sends a highplainsdem 12 hrs ago #89

Completely agree. Joinfortmill 12 hrs ago #105

I still remember Hartmann holding back on support for HRC pnwmom 12 hrs ago #107

Everyone KNEW what the stakes were in 2016, and where was Hartman? We lost the SC because of jackasses like that who lostincalifornia 11 hrs ago #115

Thom Hartmann is a duer. Emile 9 hrs ago #127

He's a public figure, however obscure, and we're discussing Nixie 8 hrs ago #130

Still not cool attacking a duer. Emile 8 hrs ago #131

Thom Hartman is a public figure and the piece he wrote on another Nixie 8 hrs ago #132

He's also a member of our community. Emile 8 hrs ago #133

He's a public figure, and he wrote something critical of Nixie 8 hrs ago #134

Civility Emile 8 hrs ago #135

That works both ways. Nixie 8 hrs ago #136

I see no personal attacks or flaming Emile 8 hrs ago #137

I didn't see it from the poster you targeted either. Just discussing Nixie 8 hrs ago #139

This message was self-deleted by its author Emile 8 hrs ago #140

Yes, "civility works both ways"... Cha 7 hrs ago #148

Exactly Cha. The ploys to silence critiques seem to be one-sided. Nixie 31 min ago #167

Good. But his comment was not a DU comment, and even if it lostincalifornia 7 hrs ago #151

I agree. Democrats need candidates who will kick some ass. lees1975 10 hrs ago #120

Post removed Post removed 7 hrs ago #145

We Need to Cha 7 hrs ago #149

I'll take anything I can get. Glaisne 6 hrs ago #153

I did NOT SEE that coming... WarGamer 7 hrs ago #150

Trump campaigned on the affordability issue, Now he claims it is a hoax. Norrrm 6 hrs ago #154

Sorta. mr715 5 hrs ago #160