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KS Toronado

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8. "and promise real real progressive change"

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Mon May 4, 2026, 07:38 AM

21 hrs ago

About time our party starts following what Bernie Sanders has been saying for years.

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Maine Just Delivered a Brutal Wake-Up Call to Democrats. Will It Land? [View all] luv2fly 22 hrs ago OP

how goes Maine, so goes the nation. nt Javaman 22 hrs ago #1

Up to 1936. Then, it was "as goes Maine, so goes Vermont." DFW 20 hrs ago #45

After Maine the bellwether was considered Missouri fujiyamasan 4 hrs ago #165

2026 is not 1936...... Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #169

The slogan wasn't time-stamped DFW 1 hr ago #171

Remember the Maine, GreenWave 12 hrs ago #128

Yep Aviation Pro 22 hrs ago #2

Her biggest sin is being an older women dsc 22 hrs ago #3

she sure didn't roll over for the likes of Trump or LePage eShirl 21 hrs ago #5

I don't like either her or Platner but yes let's get real JBTaurus83 21 hrs ago #6

if we don't live in Maine, we can't do much about it... still if Platner helps give a Dem Senate, I'll take him LymphocyteLover 21 hrs ago #24

I'm thinking he will likely resemble Bernie more than Manchin or Fetterman eShirl 20 hrs ago #44

I hope that this is the outcome. JBTaurus83 20 hrs ago #48

Second that. republianmushroom 11 hrs ago #141

Works for me NewLarry 11 hrs ago #146

.... Skittles 5 hrs ago #163

I don't see Graham Platner turning centrist. Emile 20 hrs ago #47

I hope so! JBTaurus83 20 hrs ago #49

Feel your pain yankee87 17 hrs ago #72

Understandable. You have good reason. KPN 16 hrs ago #92

Fetterman Mad_Machine76 11 hrs ago #142

And that's OK. We need to stop putting up 79 year olds. It isn't working for us. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #7

I'm 43 and I feel like I'm out of touch JBTaurus83 21 hrs ago #9

Younger people need to vote in greater numbers. Walleye 21 hrs ago #14

It's something I never understand JBTaurus83 21 hrs ago #18

Me neither, I guess they think that not voting is making some sort of statement when Walleye 21 hrs ago #21

I think they are just self centered JBTaurus83 21 hrs ago #23

Honestly, I see it as an intellectual laziness. It's just too hard. Walleye 21 hrs ago #26

Hence why we have the pig as president. JBTaurus83 20 hrs ago #34

Much easier and more gratifying to read Twitter all day than a history book Walleye 19 hrs ago #51

And when you do read history JBTaurus83 19 hrs ago #53

We need mandatory civics classes in high school. SergeStorms 14 hrs ago #119

Are there really school districts where that is NOT the case?? Ursus Rex 12 hrs ago #125

At 43 you still are young. Katinfl 21 hrs ago #27

Thanks, I like that train of thinking lol. JBTaurus83 20 hrs ago #35

I think they don't vote -- or didn't in past elections -- as much as they should because they haven't lived long enough KPN 15 hrs ago #101

My son, age 39, NewLarry 11 hrs ago #147

Then offer them something to vote for - TBF 16 hrs ago #85

All they have to do is make a choice. I don't know what they think they're going to get from it, a pony. Walleye 15 hrs ago #99

Whoooooosh .... nt TBF 15 hrs ago #106

What is the point of the " pony " insult? questionseverything 15 hrs ago #108

Bingo. nt TBF 15 hrs ago #112

Not every elderly person is out of touch with the financial difficulties young people face. Bluepinky 17 hrs ago #75

I totally agree, Bluepinky! BComplex 15 hrs ago #100

Right you are! Wish Bernie had been allowed to run! Bluepinky 15 hrs ago #103

keep dreaming Skittles 5 hrs ago #164

Yep or even the changes in the tax code since the early 80s IbogaProject 14 hrs ago #117

I agree; we need younger talent as long as they're equally competent. Callie1979 16 hrs ago #90

We need a mix. quakerboy 16 hrs ago #97

Yes... displacedvermoter 21 hrs ago #28

100% obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #30

Agreed. DFW 19 hrs ago #50

While I don't want another Manchin or Sinema or Fetterman dsc 19 hrs ago #54

That pesky nazi tatoo RoseTrellis 17 hrs ago #68

I can't disagree with that DFW 3 hrs ago #168

Her biggest problem is being a corporate Democrat that always loses to Collins. biocube 18 hrs ago #56

She never ran against Collins much less lost to her dsc 17 hrs ago #64

. MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #66

"..corporate.." Is That WHy "Gov Mills Stood UP Cha 12 hrs ago #123

Sounds like AI mr715 8 hrs ago #158

Not quite Buzz cook 17 hrs ago #69

The state party establishment never learns... the nelm 16 hrs ago #96

Her biggest sin was literally phoning it in while sitting in her den behind a web cam. Hassin Bin Sober 16 hrs ago #94

Hartmann could never bring himself to support HRC. Nothing much has changed. nt pnwmom 15 hrs ago #110

Poeple like that is why we got Traitor & Faxcism Cha 12 hrs ago #122

I might argue "simply being old" A_Woman_from_MI 14 hrs ago #118

It didn't help--- but as an elected Democratic officeholder, she also made Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #170

Informative article....K & R democrank 22 hrs ago #4

There are a few ideas that never get old JBTaurus83 21 hrs ago #10

Hopefully, many Maine voters don't "talk the way" he talks, even if they vote for him displacedvermoter 20 hrs ago #33

"and promise real real progressive change" KS Toronado 21 hrs ago #8

Yes indeed. Magoo48 20 hrs ago #38

Kick dalton99a 21 hrs ago #11

Didnt realize snowybirdie 21 hrs ago #12

"People are sick and tired of mealy-mouthed corporate Democrats who run on focus-grouped slogans sop 21 hrs ago #13

I don't think yelling at our fellow Democrats and calling them. Names is going to work this time. Walleye 21 hrs ago #15

Word BaronChocula 16 hrs ago #98

Then being surprised when Democratic supporters object to the yelling, name-calling, accusations. betsuni 15 hrs ago #113

And, it's not going to help win the Midterms.. All Cha 12 hrs ago #126

Even in private life JBTaurus83 21 hrs ago #16

And, I'm sick of Fucking Fascists Running our Cha 12 hrs ago #124

The "New Affordability Agenda" that's a "genuine populist agenda": those are usual Democratic issues, like Harris 2024. betsuni 21 hrs ago #17

Neoliberal is not a left/right descriptor, it is an economic ideology Fiendish Thingy 20 hrs ago #43

"The uselessness of 'neoliberal' as an analytic tool is the very thing that makes it useful as a factional betsuni 17 hrs ago #76

It only documents how the term is used inaccurately Fiendish Thingy 16 hrs ago #86

Neoliberal equals Neoconservative Soul_of_Wit 16 hrs ago #81

False Fiendish Thingy 16 hrs ago #91

Yes MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #67

So does Susan Collins RoseTrellis 17 hrs ago #71

Yeah, people vote because of Susan Collins' hog. mr715 16 hrs ago #79

I would love for someone to show me how Graham Platner has "taken on power." WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #19

I think that means strongly worded sentences. betsuni 21 hrs ago #20

He hasn't JBTaurus83 21 hrs ago #22

Voters who support Platner hope he will "take on power." sop 20 hrs ago #36

People should hold off on popping the champagne. JBTaurus83 20 hrs ago #42

I think that means he bad mouths Schumer. Nixie 18 hrs ago #57

He spoke truth to power by running, by talking with the people of Maine questionseverything 15 hrs ago #111

Planter needs to "beat" Colins and Stop Trashing Cha 11 hrs ago #138

It is yet to be determined. I remember when Fetterman was the shinny new object that everyone was "fawning" over. lostincalifornia 14 hrs ago #116

I certainly wish we would of known fetterman would be more loyal to Israel than the United States questionseverything 10 hrs ago #152

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia 9 hrs ago #157

POdcasts? nt Cha 12 hrs ago #129

But does Hartmann JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #25

Well we know Platner thinks Black Americans don't tip MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #65

America is always looking for a hero Keepthesoulalive 16 hrs ago #80

Not in Maine but this is what every Dem voter in my house is saying AllyCat 21 hrs ago #29

Most rank and file Dems know our nation is near collapse JBTaurus83 20 hrs ago #37

Yes! We need bamagal62 20 hrs ago #39

Send this to your local party JBTaurus83 20 hrs ago #40

TWS with Jon Stewert did an hour interview with Graham Platner Greyhead 20 hrs ago #31

I was skeptical but this interview turned me into a fan. Listening to him rather than people talking ABOUT him does it. Amaryllis 17 hrs ago #73

Thank you for posting Thom, gab13by13 20 hrs ago #32

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This is a mandatory Progressives angrychair 20 hrs ago #41

I really liked Jasmine Crockett. She spoke very plainly and her speeches were brief. LeftInTX 20 hrs ago #46

I really like her as well JBTaurus83 19 hrs ago #52

As a Texan, do you think she might have won karynnj 16 hrs ago #84

I have heard from Roland Martin that her internal infrastructure was lacking. LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #95

She got gerrymandered in Texas, and it's extremely unfair FakeNoose 15 hrs ago #104

Some math. Maine population is about 1.4 million Nixie 18 hrs ago #55

Bernie has the winning message. usonian 18 hrs ago #58

Republicans sure seem to be scared of him. biocube 18 hrs ago #59

That's why I find it strange that some Dems are still giving him grief Just_Vote_Dem 17 hrs ago #61

Your username checks out Soul_of_Wit 16 hrs ago #87

They are terrified of the next election. You Emile 17 hrs ago #63

I don't think it's progessivism Boo1 18 hrs ago #60

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I've been saying since 2016: we are getting populism whether we want it or not. Better ours than theirs. Hassin Bin Sober 15 hrs ago #102

What has Platner done to instill such unwavering confidence? MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #62

They'd-damn-better-listen-this-time... Why? betsuni 16 hrs ago #93

Brava, MorbidButterfly! I don't like beinG "Threatened" Cha 11 hrs ago #143

Why would ANYONE think your post is something the rw would advocate? sheshe2 10 hrs ago #155

Mahalo, she.. For more reasons than one! 💙 ☮️🌻🕯️🕊️💜 Cha 9 hrs ago #156

Dems are overperforming all over! 😃 MorbidButterflyTat 7 hrs ago #162

Nothing. mr715 8 hrs ago #159

ANyone listen to Jon Stewart's interview with him? THat made me a fan. Amaryllis 17 hrs ago #70

So this guy Platner fought in BUSH/CHENEY phony wars, but not one Nixie 15 hrs ago #114

Wow... Saves All his Bashing fo Dems.. and who is Cha 11 hrs ago #144

Actually he had a lot to say about the Iraq war and none of it was good.Maybe you skipped that part. Amaryllis 8 hrs ago #161

It's not in this interview. Nixie 4 hrs ago #166

I just learned a scary thing from my Mainiac brother about a Maine congressional race. It seems Vinca 17 hrs ago #74

Egads, that sucks. He's no spring chicken either. He's got to be close to 80. Emile 16 hrs ago #78

Just checked. moose65 13 hrs ago #121

hope he loses as badly as the last time he ran for anything eShirl 16 hrs ago #83

Too Early For This! Aepps22 16 hrs ago #82

Wouldn't this be more appropriate in November as he becomes Senator elect? karynnj 16 hrs ago #88

I agree. But Thom needs to realize that using AI art and AI music is ALSO pro-corporate and sends a highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #89

Completely agree. Joinfortmill 15 hrs ago #105

I still remember Hartmann holding back on support for HRC pnwmom 15 hrs ago #107

Everyone KNEW what the stakes were in 2016, and where was Hartman? We lost the SC because of jackasses like that who lostincalifornia 14 hrs ago #115

Thom Hartmann is a duer. Emile 12 hrs ago #127

He's a public figure, however obscure, and we're discussing Nixie 12 hrs ago #130

Still not cool attacking a duer. Emile 12 hrs ago #131

Thom Hartman is a public figure and the piece he wrote on another Nixie 12 hrs ago #132

He's also a member of our community. Emile 12 hrs ago #133

He's a public figure, and he wrote something critical of Nixie 12 hrs ago #134

Civility Emile 12 hrs ago #135

That works both ways. Nixie 12 hrs ago #136

I see no personal attacks or flaming Emile 11 hrs ago #137

I didn't see it from the poster you targeted either. Just discussing Nixie 11 hrs ago #139

This message was self-deleted by its author Emile 11 hrs ago #140

Yes, "civility works both ways"... Cha 10 hrs ago #148

Exactly Cha. The ploys to silence critiques seem to be one-sided. Nixie 3 hrs ago #167

Good. But his comment was not a DU comment, and even if it lostincalifornia 10 hrs ago #151

I agree. Democrats need candidates who will kick some ass. lees1975 14 hrs ago #120

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We Need to Cha 10 hrs ago #149

I'll take anything I can get. Glaisne 10 hrs ago #153

I did NOT SEE that coming... WarGamer 10 hrs ago #150

Trump campaigned on the affordability issue, Now he claims it is a hoax. Norrrm 10 hrs ago #154

Sorta. mr715 8 hrs ago #160