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In reply to the discussion: A hearty "FUCK YOU" to anyone who helped bigots and fascists capture the Supreme Court. [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(181,486 posts)181. Clinton warned us of possible Trump Supreme Court nominations
I was a delegate to the national convention and this was discussed. The solution is to elect more Democrats to the Senate and for Clinton to win.
Clinton did not talk about this issue in the real world. I attended several high dollar fund raisers when this was discussed.
Clinton made clear to everyone that the future of the SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016 and we needed to turnout to vote and elect more Democrats https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election/clinton-warns-of-possible-trump-supreme-court-nominations-idUSKCN0WU16O
WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton rebuked Senate Republicans on Monday for denying a hearing to U.S. Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland, accusing them of obstructionism, and warned of dangers if Donald Trump appointed the next justice.
In a speech in Wisconsin, Clinton put the future of the Supreme Court at the center of the election debate, cautioning that any Trump-appointed justices would be likely to roll back workers and abortion rights and demolish pillars of the progressive movement.
In a speech in Wisconsin, Clinton put the future of the Supreme Court at the center of the election debate, cautioning that any Trump-appointed justices would be likely to roll back workers and abortion rights and demolish pillars of the progressive movement.
See also https://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-supreme-court-obama-immigration-2016-6
Hillary Clinton condemned Thursday's Supreme Court deadlock that blocked President Barack Obama's executive actions on immigration, calling the decision "unacceptable."
She added that the ruling showed "us all just how high the stakes are in this election."
"As I have consistently said, I believe that President Obama acted well within his constitutional and legal authority in issuing the DAPA [Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents] and DACA [Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals] executive actions," she said in a statement.
"These are our friends and family members; neighbors and classmates; DREAMers and parents of Americans and lawful permanent residents. They enrich our communities and contribute to our economy every day. We should be doing everything possible under the law to provide them relief from the specter of deportation."
She added that the ruling showed "us all just how high the stakes are in this election."
"As I have consistently said, I believe that President Obama acted well within his constitutional and legal authority in issuing the DAPA [Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents] and DACA [Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals] executive actions," she said in a statement.
"These are our friends and family members; neighbors and classmates; DREAMers and parents of Americans and lawful permanent residents. They enrich our communities and contribute to our economy every day. We should be doing everything possible under the law to provide them relief from the specter of deportation."
See also https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/20/supreme-court-debate-clinton-trump-guns-abortion/92452362/
WASHINGTON Under Donald Trump's Supreme Court, federal abortion rights would disappear "automatically." Gun control restrictions would be frowned upon. Justices would put the Constitution first, in the mold of the late Antonin Scalia.
Under Hillary Clinton's Supreme Court, potential nominees would be vetted for their views on court precedents, such as the Citizens United decision that allowed corporations to spend freely on elections. But she might have one less nomination to make, having urged the Senate to confirm President Obama's choice for Scalia's replacement.
Those alternate legal universes emerged Thursday from liberal and conservative analyses of Wednesday night's presidential debate, when the two candidates held their most detailed discussion to date about the future of the high court.
The upshot: Trump's list of 21 potential nominees to replace Scalia and fill any future vacancies is far more specific than Clinton's, who cannot bring herself even to cite federal appeals court Judge Merrick Garland by name. She endorsed him only as "the nominee that President Obama has sent" to the Senate.
Under Hillary Clinton's Supreme Court, potential nominees would be vetted for their views on court precedents, such as the Citizens United decision that allowed corporations to spend freely on elections. But she might have one less nomination to make, having urged the Senate to confirm President Obama's choice for Scalia's replacement.
Those alternate legal universes emerged Thursday from liberal and conservative analyses of Wednesday night's presidential debate, when the two candidates held their most detailed discussion to date about the future of the high court.
The upshot: Trump's list of 21 potential nominees to replace Scalia and fill any future vacancies is far more specific than Clinton's, who cannot bring herself even to cite federal appeals court Judge Merrick Garland by name. She endorsed him only as "the nominee that President Obama has sent" to the Senate.
I was on the Clinton victory counsel team and on the legal finance committee. This was an important issue during the campaign. I am not sure what more could have been done in the real world other than Obama firing Comey after the July press conference.
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A hearty "FUCK YOU" to anyone who helped bigots and fascists capture the Supreme Court. [View all]
lapucelle
Saturday
OP
If Al Gore had won in 2000, there would be no Roberts Court, no Samuel Alito, no Citizens United,
lapucelle
Saturday
#3
It was clearly hypocrisy--- since they blocked Obama's last SC nomination
Jack Valentino
Sunday
#138
as we will be under no obligation to give any Republican SC nominee a hearing or a vote,
Jack Valentino
Monday
#191
Sorry, that doesn't work on me. I told you who is on my list. Feel free to make your own list and post an OP.
lapucelle
Saturday
#4
Yes, but - read up on the "shadow docket" - it is NOT only about SC justice appointments
RandomNumbers
Saturday
#9
Indeed, those recent leaks reveal Roberts as the architect of the Shadow Docket
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#14
But the effect of this corrupt court is greatly amplified by the 2nd TSF admin
RandomNumbers
Saturday
#15
The recent murder of the final pillar of the VRA would have happened regardless of who was the current president
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#18
There's nothing "strange and inconsistent" about calling out the folks who help Republicans win.
lapucelle
Saturday
#41
Fighting for Democrats and standing up to, taking on, calling out those helping Republicans win
betsuni
Saturday
#55
Roberts and Alito were appointed by G.W. Bush, and the OP mentions 2000
muriel_volestrangler
Yesterday
#195
Unless one of the Liberals dies or retires, any new appointments won't matter.
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#19
They will matter because Trump will appoint someone at least as bad, who will be there for the next 40 years.
Crunchy Frog
Saturday
#34
The court has been expanded and contracted numerous times throughout history
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#76
They have plenty of vulnerabilities that Dems can exploit during their campaigns
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#79
Failure to expand the court means the Trump era will continue for decades
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#88
Without court expansion, we surrender the judicial branch for a generation
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#115
Only two are close to retiring, and here is how I expect that will work:
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#121
If the court were expanded to 15 seats after Barron were appointed, I could live with that
Fiendish Thingy
Saturday
#101
There is actual history about my comment. It's obvious why you would not recognize it.
Nixie
Sunday
#172
Yes, I definitely remember all the scolds about the Supreme Court being a distraction from the *real* evil --
Nixie
Sunday
#145
"It must be a fantastic speech, a brilliant speech, which you would want to share with the American
betsuni
Sunday
#147
Dismissed as "identity politics." The white working class men who take showers at the end of the day revolution
betsuni
Sunday
#180
We would still have the Roberts Court, Samuel Alito, Citizens United, and two out of the three Trump conservatives.
lapucelle
Saturday
#21
Funny how it's Ruth Bader Ginsberg's fault and Al Gore's fault for picking Joe Lieberman.
lapucelle
Saturday
#114
Damn right. Things wouldn't be perfect if Obama had chosen her replacement, but they'd be a hell of a lot better.
Crunchy Frog
Saturday
#40
Feebly blaming Democrats, smirking "we could do this all day." Why? What's the point? Hating Democrats?
betsuni
Saturday
#57
Third party voters and *protest* nonvoters are not the majority of voters. N/T
lapucelle
Saturday
#46
You're conflating third party voters and purity-protest nonvoters with politically independent voters.
lapucelle
Saturday
#53
Too many naval-gazers don't understand (or don't care) how our political process actually works
dlk
Saturday
#35
We could have packed that damn court between 2020 and 2022 if Democrats had been bold risk takers instead of
lees1975
Saturday
#49
The inability to recognize and hopefully fix failures in our party are most often led by those blaming
Melon
Sunday
#141
Perhaps it sounds like "the voters who don't vote" but the people being blamed are, in fact, the ASSHOLES
RandomNumbers
Sunday
#164
Nader is still an asshole who refuses to admit he elected Bush or that Stein elected trump
LetMyPeopleVote
Saturday
#69
Don't forget anyone who listens to garbage from Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, or their megachurch pastors.
Initech
Saturday
#71
Those are Republican voters who wanted bigots and fascists to control the Supreme Court.
betsuni
Saturday
#86
My plan is the same as it is every year: work hard to elect Democrats who can win.
lapucelle
Saturday
#116
Nobody more classic New Deal liberal Democratic than Biden. No vote for him/Harris, New Deal not important.
betsuni
Saturday
#129
Interesting that you choose to focus on 2016 when the OP is about 2000, 2016, and 2024.
lapucelle
Saturday
#117
So your contention is that some folks on Democratic Underground don't vote for Democrats
lapucelle
Sunday
#148
This is specifically why we BEGGED people to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016.
LetMyPeopleVote
Saturday
#110
Add Miriam Adelson and her dead husband that gave over $300 million to Trump to your list of bigots and fascists
PufPuf23
Saturday
#128
I'm going to put the blame where it belongs. Elected Republicans, the media and elected Democrats
Autumn
Sunday
#149
They will get one from me, if they don't come to their senses pretty quickly.
RandomNumbers
Sunday
#165
You are perfectly free to exonerate third party voters and entitled non-voting protestors.
lapucelle
Sunday
#153
A politicians job in the campaign is to listen to the voters, get out there and get those votes.
Autumn
Sunday
#157
Folks are perfectly free to exonerate third party voters and purity protest nonvoters,
lapucelle
Sunday
#159
I have no power to exonerate anyone. Neither do you. No politician is owed a persons vote.
Autumn
Sunday
#162
If a (somewhat) figurative use of a fairly common verb is too tricky, let me simplify.
lapucelle
Sunday
#163
And when they lose the primary, get out there and get those votes for the NOMINEE
RandomNumbers
Sunday
#166
Eddie Glaude is so embarrassed by his editorial that he got Time to remove his byline.
lapucelle
Sunday
#168
They always know better...like Biden 2024 was so obviously the right call
BeyondGeography
Sunday
#190