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Haggard Celine

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9. I think it was a combination of the Union win at Gettysburg and

Sat May 2, 2026, 09:50 AM

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the fall of Vicksburg, which happened at the same time. After that, the South had few options. If Lee had been such a wonderful general, he would've surrendered soon after. People just kept dying and suffering for no damn reason at all. Lee became a symbol of the romanticised, glorious Lost Cause. White people in the South, and some in the North, invented this mythology of an antebellum South with virtuous planters who treated their slaves with dignity and they were hardly slaves, they had so much freedom and were so happy. Lee's biggest mistake was leaving the U.S. Army and taking command of Southern forces. How long would the war have lasted if Lee hadn't switched sides?

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